* 5:22 – Ken discusses some of the changes that he and KPA have had to make as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic [including changes to the Karen Pryor Professional dog training certification].

* 16:57 – Ryan asks Ken to share what message he can give to trainers who are currently struggling.

* 31:14 – Ryan asks Ken if he can share some thoughts on how trainers may best serve others during this time.

* 39:30 – Ken shares about a time he felt vulnerable but still had courage to move forward.

* 50:57 – Ken's offerings for others about how to push through during vulnerable times.

* 53:35 – Ryan asks Ken to share his thoughts on the following question from ATA member Bex Tasker: “Do you significantly adjust your approach based on the species you are work with, and if so, what are some of the main considerations you think are important for trainers to take into account?”