Kevin sits down with Kerri Einarson and Shannon Birchard to talk about the purposed rules changes, and Shannon tells us about her family's ties to curling dating back to her grandfather and the art of sweeping (1:00).

Then, Kevin catches up with Kevin Koe and Ben Hebert to talk football, podcasting, the idea of a 5th player and how the potential rule changes could impact their style of play (14:00).

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