Killer Cross Examination

Killer Cross Examination

By Neil RockindTrue Crime
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Killer Cross Examination episodes

  • F. LEE BAILEY Does Killer Cross!
    In the history of criminal defense and trial lawyers, there are only a few, who become household names. F. Lee Bailey is one of those lawyers. At various times in his life, he was considered America's go-to lawyer. He has been involved in several so-called "Trial's of the Century". His clients include:
    Sam Shepherd, the wrongly convicted doctor that was the basis for the movie and tv show, The Fugitive;
    Boston Strangler;
    Patricia Hearst, the daughter of the one of America’s richest families who was kidnapped and then joined the SLA, Symbionese Liberation Army;
    George Edgerly, the first polygraph defense case;
    Ernest Medina, the court martial related to the My Lai Massacre; and,
    OJ Simpson, to name a few.
    Bailey graced the covers to Newsweek and other magazines related to his rise to prominence. He has written at least 20 books including, The Defense Never Rests, For the Defense, To Be A Trial Lawyer, When the Husband Is The Suspect, Excellence in Cross Examination and his latest book, The Truth about the OJ Simpson Trial, By the Architect of the Defense. In our one on one we discuss Bailey’s direct, rapid fire and assertive cross examination style. He discussed how he approaches he different witnesses by circling them, luring them into complacency and pouncing on them using speed, precision, pace, word choice and logic. In our conversation, you’ll hear trial stories, war stories, cross examination, strategies from the most famous lawyer in the 20th century. We discuss the state of lawyering, the state and quality of current cross examinations,  Marcia Clark, Christopher Darden, Johnnie Cochran, OJ, Robert Shapiro, Judge Ito, Mark Fuhrman and the best cross examination of a crime scene officer I’ve ever seen, Sgt Rossi, who responded to the Bundy murder scene. We talk about the glove, the jury and more. Bailey discusses defending Patricia Hearst, the heiress who made international headlines when she was charged with bank robbery and more. He discusses how he got hired, his involvement, the impossibility of the defense and his incredibly powerful cross examination of the government’s psychiatrist witness Dr Joel Fort.
    Bailey tells you his secrets to his swaggering style: don’t use notes, don’t take your eyes off the witness, look for signs of a struggling witness, use pace and speed. His style has been called swaggering and tenacious.
    I have read all of lawyering books and you can tell I have a great admiration for his courtroom swagger and style. During our interview, he will take you behind the scenes of one of the most storied careers in the history of trial lawyers. Even at this age, Bailey’s swagger is unmistakable. In the end, he pays this writer the highest compliment, saying that he knows a great trial lawyer when he sees one and points to yours truly.
    Listen in as Bailey shares his secrets to his swaggering style: don’t use notes, don’t take your eyes off the witness, look for signs of a struggling witness, use pace and speed, and more. During our interview, he will take you behind the scenes of one of the most storied careers in the history of trial lawyers.
    Please be aware we are relying on impressions, recollections, memories and interpretations.
    1 hr 19 min
  • Jeffrey Lichtman Does Killer across - Part 2
    Join us for Part 2 of our Killer Cross Examination Podcast as I go one on one with Jeffrey Lichtman, Esq, the El Chapo's and John Gotti's criminal defense lawyer.  You don't want to miss this.  The interview has been described as "two sharks on a zoom".  A little about our guest -
    If you've been in trouble in New York, know someone who has been in trouble in New York or followed the trials of El Chapo (yes that El Chapo) or John Gotti, Jr. (yes that John Gotti, Jr) than you know our guest, Jeffrey Lichtman.  Lichtman is perhaps New York's most sought after criminal defense lawyer having defended El Chapo and obtaining acquittals for John Gotti, Jr.  His clients include rappers "The Game", and "Fat Joe" among a veritable who's who of those charged with crimes in New York.
    Lichtman's style of cross examination has been referred to as a "relentless pounding", a bludgeoning, putting witnesses "through the blender and shreds[ing] them."  Lichtman is an advocate of "killer cross examination" and shares valuable tips, strategies and war stories that are both wildly entertaining for the non-lawyer and incredibly instructive for criminal defense lawyers and trial lawyers.  Lichtman shares with us never before revealed stories about his defenses of El Chapo and Gotti and also tells me about his preparation, work ethic, use of impeachment evidence, etc. and how he has to win for not only his client but for himself.
    Jeffrey Lichtman is the principal and founder of the Law Officers of Jeffrey Lichtman and can be found at www.JeffreyLichtman.com.
    33 min
  • Jeffrey Lichtman Does Killer Cross - Part 2
    Join us for Part 1 of our Killer Cross Examination Podcast as I go one on one with Jeffrey Lichtman, Esq, the El Chapo's and John Gotti's criminal defense lawyer.  You don't want to miss this.  The interview has been described as "two sharks on a zoom".  A little about our guest -
    If you've been in trouble in New York, know someone who has been in trouble in New York or followed the trials of El Chapo (yes that El Chapo) or John Gotti, Jr. (yes that John Gotti, Jr) than you know our guest, Jeffrey Lichtman.  Lichtman is perhaps New York's most sought after criminal defense lawyer having defended El Chapo and obtaining acquittals for John Gotti, Jr.  His clients include rappers "The Game", and "Fat Joe" among a veritable who's who of those charged with crimes in New York.
    Lichtman's style of cross examination has been referred to as a "relentless pounding", a bludgeoning, putting witnesses "through the blender and shreds[ing] them."  Lichtman is an advocate of "killer cross examination" and shares valuable tips, strategies and war stories that are both wildly entertaining for the non-lawyer and incredibly instructive for criminal defense lawyers and trial lawyers.  Lichtman shares with us never before revealed stories about his defenses of El Chapo and Gotti and also tells me about his preparation, work ethic, use of impeachment evidence, etc. and how he has to win for not only his client but for himself.
    Jeffrey Lichtman is the principal and founder of the Law Officers of Jeffrey Lichtman and can be found at www.JeffreyLichtman.com.
    37 min
  • What Makes Killer Cross Examination Different

    I've pulled off some amazing results in court - most are attributable to my cross examinations.  While Killer Cross Examination is the name of our podcast, it is also the style of cross examination that I practice.  People want to know what makes my style of and my approach to cross examination different.  When I stand up, I consider every encounter with a witness a battle - a battle that I intend to win.  I set out to "kill" the witness's credibility.  This episode of the podcast helps you understand what makes this style of cross examination different.

    7 min
  • My Story, Part 1

    As a child, I was labeled a “bad kid.” I had ADHD before anyone had really considered it an ailment. But people want to know more about how I got here … to this point and a part of that story is how I came to relate and empathize with the little guy, the outcast and you can’t understand that part of me without knowing about my youth.

    I’ve said that defending the little guy is in my genes, my blood and in my DNA. People have asked how did I get here? How did I become an advocate for the accused, disregarded and ostracized? To those who want to know and those interested in how someone like me ends up being constructed — how I get here and what makes me tick — this episode is for you.

    In this episode, I share some painful stories about my youth. My unpopularity, my feelings of being an outsider and my diagnosis of ADHD in the 70’s! To those parents whose children suffer from ADHD or ADD, I’ve offered an opportunity to reach out to me. To those kids, suffering from it, I make the same offer. Reach out … you can overcome and even in some ways, harness the condition and achieve.

    Dr. Fagenbaum (the doctor that diagnosed me), Mrs. Snow (my first grade teacher at Pasteur Elementary in Detroit), Mrs. Carlton (a teacher of mine at Pasteur Elementary in Detroit), my mother, who dutifully packed my Ritalin pill every day for me to take a lunch, this episode is for you, and all the parents of kids who are on the fringe, this one is for you.

    41 min
  • Hanging Judges

    We’ve all heard the stories about the tough judges, the judges who view themselves as hard-asses. Lawyers traveling to other towns always ask, “tell me about the judge” because we want to know if the judge is tough or has developed a reputation for being a “hanging judge”. They have no place in today’s legal system but they exist and because of their impact in the lives of the accused before them, I take them on during this episode. We subject this style of judge to killer cross examination.

    53 min
  • Proverbs 18:17

    The first to state his case seems right, until another comes and examines him.

    They biblical phrase describes trials, direct examination and cross examination in some ways better than any book or pamphlet.  Witnesses take the stand and on direct examination and “seem right”. They seem right, believable and convincing.  Then the challenge to their story comes in … we challenge their story.  We provide the counterweight.  When done, the witness no longer seems right.

    I take you through a recent case, a probation violation hearing, where Proverbs 18:17 came to life.  I walk you through how the prosecution witness gave damning testimony against our client and it seemed “right” until cross examined.   This is a valuable lesson in not jumping to conclusions and allowing cross examination to tell the story.

    38 min
  • Killer Cross Examination Takes On Robinhood

    Robinhood. Vlad.  Citadel.  Steve Cohen. David Portnoy.  Game Stop.  Nokia.  AMC Theaters Holdings.  Dogecoin.  Bitcoin.  Shorts.  Options.  Wall Street bets.  Reddit.  We’ve seen a convergence of these names, financial terms, stocks, companies and entities over last few weeks as old school Wall Street butted heads with the public and WSB Reddit.  But when traders needed a platform to trade, Robin Hood and other similar trading companies banned trades, halted trading, changed the rules.  Wall Street benefitted.  The individual investor did not.  Yet, not one of the leaders, power brokers or those involved were subjected to real cross examination - real powerful, probing questioning.  I saw the interviews on television.  Softball questions.  Time limits.  What we needed is/was killer cross examination of Vlad and others.  In fact, I offered to do it.

    This is where Killer Cross Examination meets Robin Hood.

    20 min
  • The Questions I Get Asked

    I get asked a lot of questions about criminal defense. I think all criminal lawyers do. The questions, you can guess them:

    • how can you defend those people
    • have you ever defended someone who is guilty
    • have you ever defended someone that admitted they were guilty
    • have you ever defended someone who you knew was guilty
    • have you ever gotten anyone off that was guilty
    • Here my take on why these questions miss the mark on what I/we do.

      28 min
    • Prosecutor Appeals Are Not Appealing

      As a child, I watched the Wide World of Sports on ABC.  Like others, I loved the introduction - “the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat.”  Who can forget the iconic ski jumper falling sideways off the ski jump, crashing and tumbling.  Pain. Hurt.  Disappointment.   In the criminal justice system, prosecutors can appeal rulings that they don’t like - when evidence is suppressed, police are adjudged to have broken the law or when a charge/case is dismissed.  I’ve watched client’s jump for joy, elation and relief when the charges are dismissed or evidence suppressed. I’ve watched as client’s have the proverbial rug pulled out from under them when the prosecutor appeals and tries to reverse the ruling.  It is cruel.

      In this episode, I explore and discuss this phenomenon.  As I said, when prosecutor’s appeal, it is not appealing.

      19 min

    About Killer Cross Examination

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