Galaxy Brain

King Gizzard, Spotify, and the Future of Music


Listen Later

On this week’s Galaxy Brain, host Charlie Warzel dives into the state of the music industry, where streaming economics, algorithmic discovery, and generative AI are reshaping how music is distributed as well as what it means to make music in this environment. The episode traces how playlists and opaque recommendation systems have left many artists feeling like they’re battling an algorithm. With AI-generated songs now flooding platforms, and even in one case landing on a Billboard chart, the episode examines how automation, impersonation, and synthetic “diet music” are crowding into a system already strained by low payouts and creative burnout.

Charlie is joined by Stu Mackenzie, the front man of the prolific Australian band King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, to talk about making music in the algorithmic age. From embracing bootleggers to pulling its catalog from Spotify, Mackenzie explains how the band has tried to protect its creative core while the industry transforms around it. Charlie and Stu explore whether we’re witnessing a normal technological shift or something more existential—an era where music is treated as pure commodity.

Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Atlantic subscribers also get access to exclusive subscriber audio in Apple Podcasts. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/Listener.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Galaxy BrainBy The Atlantic

  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5

4.5

1,075 ratings


More shows like Galaxy Brain

View all
This American Life by This American Life

This American Life

91,208 Listeners

Radiolab by WNYC Studios

Radiolab

43,890 Listeners

Fresh Air by NPR

Fresh Air

38,512 Listeners

The New Yorker Radio Hour by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The New Yorker Radio Hour

6,959 Listeners

On the Media by WNYC Studios

On the Media

9,210 Listeners

The Gray Area with Sean Illing by Vox

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

10,727 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

113,290 Listeners

Radio Atlantic by The Atlantic

Radio Atlantic

2,376 Listeners

The Atlantic Interview by The Atlantic

The Atlantic Interview

26 Listeners

Today, Explained by Vox

Today, Explained

10,341 Listeners

Throughline by NPR

Throughline

16,478 Listeners

Floodlines by The Atlantic

Floodlines

3,397 Listeners

Social Distance by The Atlantic

Social Distance

916 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,498 Listeners

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart by Comedy Central

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

10,859 Listeners

How to Age Up by The Atlantic

How to Age Up

1,433 Listeners

The Review by The Atlantic

The Review

137 Listeners

Holy Week by The Atlantic

Holy Week

297 Listeners

Good on Paper by The Atlantic

Good on Paper

360 Listeners

Autocracy in America by The Atlantic

Autocracy in America

1,529 Listeners

The Opinions by The New York Times Opinion

The Opinions

616 Listeners

We Live Here Now by The Atlantic

We Live Here Now

230 Listeners