Zach and ESPN's Kirk Goldsberry discuss the wild Suns-Nuggets series, Nikola Jokic shoving Mat Ishbia, and what comes next as the series moves to Denver. Then (40:32) they turn to James Harden's last-second heroics in tying the Philly-Boston series, and look ahead to Game 5 and beyond. Plus -- a quick mention of what to watch tonight in Warriors-Lakers.

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