Shane has a deep discussion with Klaus Lotz from PermaDynamics, a syntropic farmer from New Zealand whose origin story traces back to working with the originator of this fascinating method in Brazil. We cover dairy goats, tree crops, and the specifics of living in a broader intentional community founded on permaculture principles.

Read more of Klaus' work at his main website: https://www.permadynamics.co.nz

Immerse in beautiful photos of the property: https://www.instagram.com/permadynamics/

Check out the Sapp app for selecting the best local trees and plants: https://www.sapp.earth

Find more of Shane’s work at:

Zero Input Agriculture blog: https://zeroinputagriculture.substack.com

Taming the Apocalypse audiobook - https://www.kobo.com/au/en/audiobook/taming-the-apocalypse-2

Our Vitreous Womb - https://www.amazon.com/Our-Vitreous-Womb-Book-1-4-ebook/dp/B0C7H9N1K3/