Knowing Faith

Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by their spouses; Jeff Wilkin, Macy English, and Lauren Worley!

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Does JT quote Bavinck on date nights?
• How does it feel to be grandparents?
• Who is the “yes” parent and who is the “no” parent?
• What’s your favorite episode of Knowing Faith so far this season?
• Do any of y’all ever listen to an episode and think - “Why did I marry a weirdo/nerd?”
• What does ministry partnership look like for each of us?

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Knowing Faith Episode #38 -  Living with a Theologian
• The Family Discipleship Podcast

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Kyle Worley is joined by Joe Allen to answer the question; if God calls, why evangelize?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• If God calls, why evangelize?
• Is my obedience to evangelism of consequence or of faithfulness?
• If I go out today and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with my neighbor, am I walking in faithfulness to what God has said?
• If I go out and share the gospel with my neighbor today, can I have confidence God will do what I cannot do?

Guest Bio:

Dr. Joe M. Allen III serves as Assistant Professor of Missions at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He earned his Ph.D. in Applied Theology from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and his Th.M. in World Missions and Historical Theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. Dr. Allen is the author of a series of theology books for kids called “Big Thoughts for Little Thinkers,” which includes The Trinity, The Gospel, The Scripture, and The Mission. He also wrote a gospel tract called, “Welcome to Heaven.” He is married to Christy, and they have two children, Claire and Joe IV.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• 1 Corinthians 3:9, 1 Thessalonians 2:19-20
• “Enquiry into the Obligations of Christians, to Use Means for the Conversion of the Heathens” by William Carey

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their conversation on the doctrine of salvation by discussing justification.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Is justification the doctrine by which the church stands or falls?
• What is justification?
• Is justification “just as if I had never sinned”?
• Is what we have better than what Adam and Eve could have had?
• Why do we need to be justified?
• What is righteousness?
• Why would say that humanity, prior to the fall, did not enjoy union with Christ?
• What is the basic idea of justification?
• How does this relate to the doctrine of God?
• What is important for us as we consider this?
• How can I know that I have been justified?

Helpful Definitions:

• Justification: To be declared right.
• Righteousness: A purity (covenant obedience to the law) that we lost that we can’t get back apart from it being imputed to us through Christ.
  • Synonym: Holiness: Utter purity.
  • Synonym: Obedience
• Tsaddiq (Hebrew: צַדִּיק): Righteousness
• Mishpat (Hebrew מִשְׁפָּט): Justice

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Romans 5, Revelation 21-22, Genesis 1-2, Galatians 2:15-21, Genesis 3, Romans 7, 2 Corinthians 5:21

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Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to answer the question, why is union with Christ the best news ever?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why is union with Christ the best news ever?
• How secure do you think Jesus is?

Guest Bio:

Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• John 17, Colossians 3:3, Ephesians 2:6

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation, union with Christ.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What is the most important doctrine for understanding the doctrine of salvation?
• Why does Paul continually use the preposition “in”?
• It is possible to live in this world as an individual not united to someone else?
• I grew up hearing Christ in me, not me in Christ; where is the emphasis? Why was I presented with the opposite?
• What is the doctrine of union with Christ?
• How have we imported modern conceptions of identity on being in Christ?
• What is the difference between dying to self and living with Christ and embracing those distinctions that you want to dignify?
• It is important to value diversity?
• How is union with Christ different from communion with God?
• If someone said they were feeling cold in their relationship with God, how would you respond to them?

Helpful Definitions:

• Union with Christ:
  • A believers identification in Christ and incorporation into the body of all of those who are identified with Christ before God.
  • The unbreakable, unshakeable reception of all of God’s saving benefits.
  • Unbreakable relationship with God held by Jesus for His people, received by grace through faith.
• Communion with Christ: Fellowship with God. The enjoyment of God’s saving benefits, it is shakeable and breakable and you can also deepen it.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Acts 9, John 17:1–26, Ephesians 1:3-10, Romans 6:1-11, Galatians 2:20, Romans 5:19, Colossians 1:27, Genesis 3, Luke 14:11, Revelation 5, Romans 16
• Crossway: Women of the Word
• Knowing Faith Episode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a Metaphor

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Kyle Worley is joined by Matthew Barrett to answer the question, why was the doctrine of justification such a big deal during the reformation?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why was the doctrine of justification such a big deal during the reformation?
• This was a big deal for Luther, is this still a big deal today?

Helpful Definitions:

• The Joyful Exchange: Christ takes our guilt and in return, by nothing of our own doing, we receive the perfect, flawless, righteousness of Christ.

Guest Bio:

Dr. Matthew Barrett is Associate Professor of Christian Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is also the founder and executive editor of Credo Magazine. He is the author of numerous books including: Simply Trinity: The Unmanipulated Father, Son, and Spirit, None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of God and God’s Word Alone: The Authority of Scripture.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• “Commentary on Galatians” by Martin Luther

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley come back to one of their most popular topics; brothers and sisters.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Indisputably: This is something we get more feedback on than just about anything else…why is that?
• How has the culture shift affected this conversation?
• What has been the church's response to the shift in culture?
• What does the biblical doctrine of anthropology related to men and women have to affirm?
• When we say “we need each other,” what does that mean?
• What are the threats and liabilities of relationships? What about not having these relationships?
• Why are we using family-oriented language in this conversation?
• Does this apply to those who are not believers?
• How has this changed us? How has it changed our ministries?
• Why is getting this right crucial?

Helpful Definitions:

• Adelphoi (ἀδελφοί): Brothers and sisters. The family of God.
• Philia: A kind of love that exists only among family, not just biologically but spiritually through the blood of Christ.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Crossway: Women of the Word
• “Jesus through the Eyes of Women” by Rebecca McLaughlin

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the doctrine of salvation by talking about the doctrine of regeneration.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What’s a doctrine?
• When we say “doctrine of salvation,” what do we mean?
• What is election?
• What is effectual calling?
• What is regeneration?
• When the Bible is talking about the heart, what is it talking about?
• What are other ways the Bible talks about this?
• How has the language of being “born again” changed?
• When does regeneration happen?
• What is the result of regeneration? Where does it lead?

Helpful Definitions:

• Doctrine: A christian belief. Something we believe the Bible says to be true. 
  • Organizes and summarizes what the Bible teaches.
• Election: Before the foundation of the world God predestined, or set apart for himself, a people that He will secure their salvation.
• Doctrine of Salvation: How God saves his people.
• Effectual Calling: The specific work the the Spirit of God making an effectual impact in our hearts.
• Regeneration: When the heart that we have been given by nature is replaced with a new heart.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Ephesians 2:1, Ezekiel 36-37, John 3
• Crossway: Women of the Word
• Episode #174 – Salvation: Election
• Episode #176 – Salvation: Calling

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted from their patron supporters! To learn more and become a patron visit patreon.com/trainingthechurch.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• If we understand that Jesus, in His spiritual body, sits at the right hand of the Father after His ascension. How do we resolve the tension this presents to God's unchanging nature if before His ascension it was not Jesus in His spiritual body, particularly, but the Son of God that was at the Father's right hand?
• When reading the Psalms there often references to statutes, ordinances, laws, testimonies, commandments, and precepts given by God. Is there a significant difference in the meaning of these different words?
• I would love to hear each of you discuss the relationship between small groups and learning environments in your respective churches. How can these two spaces best complement one another without feeling competitive?
• What does a typical week look like for everyone (work, church, family, fun, rest time)?
• Would love your thoughts on good questions to explore with a teen in my home as we discuss this: Adam's sin resulted in all humanity being born with a sin nature and without Christ we 'can't not sin'. He believes it would've been more just for God to give each individual person a 'fruit on the tree' moment before they automatically 'receive' a sinful nature. In his view, we talk about someone who isn't a Christian choosing to sin, and yet at the same time, we believe that their nature is that they can't actually choose something different. This seems so contradictory to him. If God really wanted to give us a choice, why did he set us up to not be able to choose him first? Not us as in all humanity, but us as individuals. He doesn't think that 'we're human so we'd always fail' makes sense, because the reason that is true is because of the sin nature...so if it wasn't for that, we wouldn't necessarily fail.
• On the doctrine of simplicity: Is god wrath? I've heard God is love but has wrath. But is wrathful an attribute of God? If wrath is an attribute, then, in the new heavens and new earth, after judgement day, what is that wrath directed towards?
• "How did women in the OT share in the sign of the covenant?" How can something as important as the sign of the covenant between God's people could be reserved to something only men could do (aka. circumcision) and what if baptism as the sign of the new covenant was restricted to only men. Were women being left out of an essential part of what it meant to be in a relationship with God and his covenant people. Do y'all have any thoughts on this that might help resolve that tension?
• Often, we hear about heated conversations related to women as pastors but we never hear such discussions about single male pastors. But, of course Paul writes about singleness as something he recommends to the church. Was that only intended for his specific context? Or is it biblically unfaithful to exclusively have married men with families in pastoral or deacon roles?
• I have been focusing on Luke, and was freshly moved by the references to Mary treasuring up different revelations/experiences with Jesus (the shepherds visit after the angel of the Lord appearing to them and Jesus calling the temple his Father's house). Would it be appropriate to consider Luke as connecting Mary's experience with Psalm 119:11?
• Why is Ephesians off limits?
• Jen referred to Psalm 139 as the “lady Psalm,” - I’m wondering why she called it that?
• What are your takes on celebrating Christmas by incorporating Santa Claus and on celebrating Halloween. How do you go about making those decisions and giving grace to those who differ?
• If you could wave a magic wand, how would you organize a local church? What are the first three ministries you would focus on establishing in addition to the Sunday gathering?
• Kyle you have recommended several sci-fi or fantasy books or authors through the seasons. So far I have really enjoyed all of your recommendations could you make some more?
• The 6th command is “Do not Murder.” Why were the Israelites multiple times commanded to kill whole nations women and children?
• What obscure or lesser known and taught passages of the Bible are some of your favorites and deserve more notice?
• What about prophets/prophecy today? Is prophet a current office? What is a prophet today, or what is prophecy today? Can just anyone prophecy? Does any of it exist now?
• Considering recently the implications of The Father as the one who sends, I'm seeing James 1:17 in a new light. The Father is the one who sent Jesus, sends the Spirit, ... and is the direct sender of blessings? Is that what I should be taking away here? So a quick, heartfelt "Thank you, Jesus!" upon receipt of rain, provision, etc, may not be the best expression of gratitude, when it should be "Thank you, Father!"? Are we robbing God the Father of the worship due Him when we attribute His goodness to Christ? Are there other ways you can think of that we commonly misdirect worship to one person of the Godhead when it is deserved by the other (or ascribe it only to One when it should be to all Three)?

Helpful Definitions:

• Prophet: Speaking on behalf of God.
• prophet: In tune with the Holy Spirit wanting to build up the life of the church.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Psalm 119:1-8, Psalm 19:7-9, Genesis 3:15-16, Luke 2:8-19, Luke 2:48-51, Psalm 119:11, Psalm 139, Kings 25, Exodus 1:15-21, Numbers 27:1-11, 1 Samuel 28, James 1:17
• The Chalcedonian Creed
• “Santa, Strategically” by Jen Wilkin
• “Lord of the Rings” by J.R.R. Tolkein
• “Red Rising” by Pierce Brown
• “Wingfeather Saga” by Andrew Peterson
• “Thursday Murder Club” by Richard Osman
• “The Terminal List” by Jack Carr
• 10 Commandments Hand Signs

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the doctrine of salvation with a conversation about calling.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Is there a difference between the general call of the gospel and “effectual calling?” If so, what is the difference?
• What is the purpose of the general call if not everyone responds to it?
• Where would we look to find this in scripture?
• When does the effectual calling happen? Who does the work of effectual calling?
• What would you say to someone who doesn’t have a specific moment they can point to where they were “saved”?
• Why is the doctrine of effectual calling good news?

Helpful Definitions:

• General Calling: The gospel goes forward indiscriminately to all people.
  • The external work of proclamation.
• Particular Calling: Specific to those who respond to the gospel effectually. God the Father will call people to the Son, those who are elect, by the power of the Holy Spirit and actually effect salvation in them. New affections to bring about transformation of heart, soul, mind, and strength to love Jesus with everything they have.
  • The internal work of salvation.
• The Ordo Salutis (The Order of Salvation): Regeneration, Faith, Repentance, Justification, Adoption, Sanctification, Perseverance, Glorification.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Genesis 12:1-3, Romans 8:28-30, Romans 10:14-17, John 6:60-71, Matthew 13
• The Gospel Coalition Conference: Code: KNOWINGFAITH
• Crossway: Women of the Word

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