The gents are joined by art advisor and curator James Michael Cardoso Schaeffer to discuss the news of the day including the fact that Nate is joining Vanity Fair, and the death of Donald "known known and known unknowns" Rumsfeld. In the art-world itself they cover the opening of the LUMA foundation in Arles as well as the opening of Laura Owens new exhibition, also in Arles, at the Vincent van Gogh foundation. They go on to chat about the very touching interview with Thomas Houseago about his trauma-induced breakdown, the recent Phillips sale,  Jim Shaw joining Gagosian, and much, much more.