On a recent episode of Hard Knock Radio, host Davey D sat down with Professor Kevin R. Johnson to unpack a high stakes Supreme Court hearing centered on birthright citizenship and a controversial executive order issued by President Donald Trump. The conversation provided historical grounding, legal clarity, and a sobering look at the broader social implications.
Professor Johnson began by explaining the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause, noting that anyone born on U.S. soil is a citizen, regardless of their parents’ immigration status. While the amendment was passed after the Civil War in part to overturn the Dred Scott decision and secure citizenship for formerly enslaved people, Johnson stressed that it was written broadly and applies to everyone born in the United States. He also pointed to the landmark Wong Kim Ark case, which affirmed citizenship for a U.S. born child of Chinese immigrants.
The discussion also turned to the unusual presence of Trump at the Supreme Court hearing. Johnson noted that it is rare for a sitting president to attend oral arguments and suggested the appearance may have been designed to shape public opinion and send a message to the justices. Even so, he observed that the Court appeared well prepared and skeptical of the administration’s position, with signs that the executive order could be struck down as unconstitutional.
Davey D pushed the conversation toward the racial politics surrounding immigration. Johnson argued that attacks on birthright citizenship are rooted in a race based view of immigration and have been aimed largely at Latino and other immigrant communities of color. He connected the current moment to earlier histories of exclusion, including anti Chinese laws and Mexican repatriation campaigns.
One of the most powerful moments came when Johnson described the fear many families now face. He explained that immigrant households are being forced to prepare for sudden detention and deportation, creating deep trauma and insecurity. He compared those conversations to the painful talks Black families often have with their children about surviving police encounters.
The interview closed with a reflection on politics and consequence. Johnson noted that many voters may have supported Trump over economic concerns, only to now confront the human cost of his immigration agenda.
On the second part of Hard Knock Radio, host Davey D spoke with Memphis organizer and creative journalist Amber Sherman about the deeper political and social crisis unfolding in Memphis. Framed around the recent No Kings protest, the conversation moved beyond a single incident and painted a picture of a city being used as a testing ground for aggressive policing, immigration enforcement, and environmentally harmful development.
Sherman described how a peaceful march in downtown Memphis ended with police violently dragging, tasing, and tackling demonstrators, including marshals who were helping protect children, disabled participants, and slower walkers at the back of the protest. She stressed that the violence was unnecessary and followed a familiar pattern in Memphis, where police often escalate situations rather than deescalate them.
Davey D connected the attack to the broader national landscape, noting that what happens in Memphis often reflects what communities across the country may soon face. Sherman agreed, arguing that Memphis has become a proving ground for state repression. She explained that even after Tyre Nichols’ killing, reforms have been limited. While local organizers won measures such as restrictions on pretextual traffic stops, limits on plainclothes and unmarked vehicle stops, and a public data transparency dashboard, Tennessee lawmakers and federal forces have found ways to override or bypass those protections.
The conversation also turned to immigration enforcement, with Sherman warning that Black immigrants have been directly targeted and deported. She emphasized the need for Know Your Rights education, especially as authorities conduct raids and use fear to meet detention quotas.
In the final part of the interview, Sherman addressed the growing fight against Elon Musk’s xAI data centers in Memphis and nearby Southaven. She said residents are already dealing with severe air pollution, asthma, and health disparities, and that methane gas turbines tied to the project are making conditions worse.
Sherman closed by urging listeners to support Memphis organizers, pressure city officials, and follow ongoing calls to action through Decarcerate Memphis and her social media platforms.
Hard Knock Radio is a drive-time Hip-Hop talk show on KPFA (94.1fm @ 4-5 pm Monday-Friday), a community radio station without corporate underwriting, hosted by Davey D and Anita Johnson.
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