As the nation approaches 25 years since the September 11 attacks, Hard Knock Radio host Davey D sat down with UC Berkeley professors Hatem Bazian and Michael Mark Cohen to examine a part of the story too often overlooked: what happened after 9/11.
Bazian argued that the attacks gave the federal government an opening to expand policies that had been developing for decades. He connected the post-9/11 security apparatus to earlier government surveillance programs, the 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, and the passage of the Patriot Act. In his view, the War on Terror “rewired” the legal system, weakening privacy, protest, assembly and other constitutional protections.
Muslim communities bore the brunt of that transformation. Bazian described widespread surveillance of mosques, organizations and individuals, along with government informants and cases built around entrapment or what he called “preemptive prosecution.” These policies, he emphasized, eventually expanded beyond Muslim communities and became part of a broader system affecting activists, immigrants and political organizations.
Cohen challenged the popular image of post-9/11 America as a nation united by tragedy. That unity, he argued, was built around militarism, censorship and repression. People who questioned the Bush administration, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, or America’s foreign policy were frequently labeled unpatriotic and, in some cases, pushed out of their jobs or public platforms.
Davey D noted that Hip Hop artists were also targeted, despite more than 100 antiwar songs emerging from the culture. Artists including Boots Riley, KRS-One and De La Soul faced scrutiny, while a larger antiwar Hip Hop movement was largely erased from public memory.
The conversation also explored how post-9/11 surveillance evolved alongside smartphones, social media, algorithms and corporate data collection. Cohen described a direct line from warrantless government surveillance to a world where people carry devices that constantly collect information. At the same time, those technologies have documented police violence and allowed people to witness the devastation in Gaza in real time.
Both guests stressed the need to preserve history, strengthen local organizing and defend education. Cohen concluded that 9/11 should be understood not simply as a tragedy commemorated once a year, but as a historical portal for examining endless war, surveillance, political division and America’s changing position in the world.
The Aftermath of 9/11: War, Surveillance and the Battle Over History
0:00–10:00 | How 9/11 Reshaped American Freedom
Davey D introduces the conversation by asking what changed after 9/11, especially for generations too young to remember life before the attacks. Professor Hatem Bazian traces the War on Terror to earlier government surveillance programs, including COINTELPRO and the 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act. He argues that 9/11 became the justification for weakening privacy, protest and constitutional protections. Bazian also discusses attacks on ethnic studies and the university’s declining role as a protected space for dissent.
10:00–20:00 | The Myth of National Unity
Professor Michael Mark Cohen challenges the idea that Americans came together after 9/11. He argues that the country was mobilized for war while Arab Americans, Muslims and immigrants faced raids, surveillance and repression. Cohen connects this climate to censorship and the punishment of public figures who questioned the government. The conversation also examines how the War on Terror fractured both political parties and helped create openings for Barack Obama, Donald Trump and later political movements.
20:00–30:00 | Preemptive Prosecution and Mass Surveillance
Bazian explains how “preemptive prosecution” allowed authorities to target people who had not committed crimes but were considered potential threats. He discusses the Patriot Act, government informants, mosque surveillance and entrapment cases. Cohen then connects these policies to today’s digital surveillance system. Smartphones, social media, metadata and street cameras created a world where government agencies and corporations continuously collect information. Davey describes social media as entertainment covering up a massive surveillance operation.
30:00–40:00 | Digital Outrage and Public Desensitization
The guests examine the contradictions of digital technology. Phones and social media can expose police violence and document atrocities, but constant exposure can also overwhelm and desensitize people. Davey discusses how algorithms isolate communities and feed them customized racial resentment and political outrage. Cohen explains that anger drives online engagement and corporate profits. The segment closes with a discussion of 9/11 as a televised media event and the difficulty younger generations face when they have never been taught its broader history.
40:00–50:00 | The Erasure of History and the Need to Organize
Cohen explains that many students have little knowledge of Hurricane Katrina, the 2008 financial collapse, the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street. He argues that educators are confronting a growing war against history and critical scholarship. Davey asks how organizers can preserve evidence and protect physical records in a world where digital information can be altered or removed. Bazian calls for locally grounded organizing, free education, healthcare and access to basic necessities.
50:00–52:45 | 9/11 as a Portal into the Present
Cohen closes by arguing that 9/11 should not be isolated as a tragedy remembered once a year. It should be understood as a historical turning point that helps explain endless war, mass surveillance, censorship and the decline of American global power. He describes the post-9/11 period as the beginning of the end of the American empire and says Americans must reconsider their place within an increasingly multipolar world.
The Aftermath of 9/11: War, Surveillance and the Battle Over History
On Hard Knock Radio, host Davey D spoke with UC Berkeley professors Hatem Bazian and Michael Mark Cohen about how 9/11 transformed the United States far beyond the attacks themselves. Bazian argued that the War on Terror expanded government powers that had been developing since COINTELPRO and the 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act. After 9/11, the Patriot Act, mass surveillance, government informants and “preemptive prosecution” weakened privacy and other constitutional protections. Muslim, Arab and immigrant communities were the first major targets, but the same tools eventually spread to activists, protesters and the wider public.
Cohen challenged the familiar story that 9/11 brought the country together, arguing that this supposed unity was built around militarism, censorship and the silencing of dissent. Davey highlighted the overlooked history of antiwar Hip Hop and the artists who were condemned for questioning the Bush administration. The conversation connected post-9/11 surveillance to smartphones, social media, corporate data collection and algorithms that profit from outrage and division. Both guests stressed that 9/11 must be studied as a historical turning point—one that helps explain endless war, political polarization, attacks on education and the erosion of civil liberties.
The War on Terror rewired American law. Policies enacted after 9/11 expanded surveillance, weakened privacy and normalized government intrusion.Muslim communities became the testing ground. Mosques, organizations and individuals faced monitoring, informants, raids and entrapment operations.Dissent was treated as disloyalty. Journalists, educators, activists and Hip Hop artists who questioned the wars risked censorship and professional retaliation.Surveillance became part of everyday life. Smartphones, social media, metadata and street cameras extended government and corporate monitoring into nearly every aspect of society.Preserving history is a political act. The guests urged people to protect records, teach younger generations and organize locally against repression, historical erasure and endless war.Hard Knock Radio is a drive-time Hip-Hop talk show on KPFA (94.1fm @ 4-5 pm Monday-Friday), a community radio station without corporate underwriting, hosted by Davey D and Anita Johnson.
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