What Kind of Bird Can’t Fly: A Memoir of Resilience and Resurrection
As part of a Black History Month celebration at San Francisco State University, Hard Knock Radio host Davey D sat in conversation with longtime organizer and formerly incarcerated activist Dorsey Nunn. What unfolded was not a ceremonial talk, but a grounded and at times raw discussion about violence, prison life, reentry, and the deeper systems that shape who is allowed to change and who is permanently punished.
Nunn, a co founder of All of Us or None, used the moment to push back against narrow definitions of public safety. He argued that safety is not delivered by policing alone, but built through sustained community engagement, accountability, and the willingness to stay long enough to transform conditions. He pointed to a two year period with no murders in East Palo Alto and Menlo Park as evidence that violence is not inevitable, but shaped by choices and culture.
Throughout the conversation, Nunn emphasized direct intervention. He described confronting street level violence by reframing it as harm done to one’s own home, not protection of territory. Organizers challenged outdated neighborhood identities and made clear that chaos only benefits systems already prepared to surveil and punish. For Nunn, staying present mattered. Leaving early, he warned, often means abandoning communities just as change becomes possible.
The work extended beyond the streets. Nunn spoke about going into prisons to meet with shot callers and ask hard questions about the supposed economics of violence. In neighborhoods already saturated with law enforcement, he challenged the idea that anyone was winning. These conversations revealed how influence continues behind prison walls and why violence prevention must include people who are incarcerated, not just those on the outside.
When Davey D raised the question of rehabilitation, Nunn flipped the lens. He questioned why formerly incarcerated people are constantly expected to prove transformation while society builds structures that never allow punishment to end. Structural discrimination, he argued, keeps people locked out long after sentences are served. Real rehabilitation, for him, came through relationships with other formerly incarcerated people who could speak honestly, share resources, and build trust without respectability politics.
Nunn described recovery spaces as informal reentry hubs. People shared job leads, pooled money, and made sure newcomers could meet basic needs. That mutual aid, he explained, was not charity, but a survival strategy rooted in dignity. He also spoke candidly about the hard boundaries reentry requires, including telling family members they could not live with him because police contact would follow them to his door.
The conversation closed on a personal and political note. Nunn reflected on how relationships change on both sides of prison walls, how grief reshapes identity, and how love evolves over time. He connected those lessons to policy work, reclaiming authorship of the Ban the Box campaign and reminding the audience that the most meaningful reforms are led by those directly impacted.
In the end, Nunn described himself as a revolutionary in recovery, tying personal discipline, collective care, and long term political struggle into one ongoing commitment.
Hard Knock Radio is a drive-time Hip-Hop talk show on KPFA (94.1fm @ 4-5 pm Monday-Friday), a community radio station without corporate underwriting, hosted by Davey D and Anita Johnson.
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