I sit down with Kumu Ramsey Taum at ChōZen retreat in Sebastian, Florida, at a namūna leadership gathering of 60 spiritual leaders, thought leaders, practitioners, artists, musicians, and writers. Ramsey is a multidisciplinary lineage carrier from Hawaii. He's a teacher, thought leader, professor, and lineage carrier of some of the most interesting indigenous tribal wisdom from Hawaii and the surrounding areas. He consults Fortune 500 companies, hosts ceremonies, is working to reunify the independent Island Nation of Hawaii, and is one of the most incredible people I've met.

I learned an absolute ton from this. I really hope you'll enjoy this conversation as I did.

Get full access to a little Deeper... at zachmbell.substack.com/subscribe