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"I always thought it as a service for the kids and that is for the students. That is really, and it is true, it is really, you know, your main focus here is the students, if, but a lot of the language. And as I listen to these, these podcasts on this playlist and I learn more about like standards or not standards, I want to say the culture of special education, which again, I sit kind of like part, part way in."