Today’s episode features Kavita Patel, practicing physician and former health and economics policy advisor in the Obama Administration. We talk pro-cookie baking tips and Covid, including the pros and cons of the available vaccines, the reality of our shared grief and what to say to someone who’s not wearing a mask. We also talk about more pleasant things, including that most pleasant thing of all: chocolate. Plus: We make whole-wheat oatmeal chocolate chip cookies that are packed with enough chocolate you won't know they're full of nutritious whole wheat flour.

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