As a top adviser to the Rubio campaign, Lanhee Chen fought Donald Trump's stampede through the primaries. Now he's coming to terms with the movement reshaping the Republican party — but that doesn't mean he's happy about it. Chen joined POLITICO's Dan Diamond to discuss his growing career as a TV pundit (starts at the 1:50 mark), what he learned as the policy director of the 2012 Romney-Ryan campaign (6:15), what a Romney presidency would've looked like (15:00), why the Rubio campaign failed and Trump won the nomination (18:00), where the GOP really stands on health care (24:15), his thoughts on Obamacare (32:15), and perceptions of a wonk gap between conservatives and liberals (38:00). Plus: Don't miss the lightning round quiz at 44:00. We’d appreciate your help: Please share PULSE CHECK and rate us on your favorite podcast app! Have questions, suggestions or feedback? Email [email protected].

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