Episode No. 354 features curator Laurence Kanter and art historian John Klein.

Kanter is the curator of "Leonardo: Discoveries from Verocchio's Studio" at the Yale University Art Gallery. Kanter argues that a pair of predella panels made for a large altarpiece in Pistoia were executed by Leonardo. It is on view through Oct. 7.

On the second segment, host Tyler Green's 2014 conversation with art historian John Klein about how Henri Matisse migrated projects from cut-outs to decorations.