Law and Chaos

Law and Chaos

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    We're taking the week off due to illness. This is a 30-second explainer.

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    1 min
  • Ep 157 — Census 2025? No. (feat. Kel McClanahan)

    We welcome back National Security Counselors' Kel McClanahan to discuss how the Law & Chaos podcast will be suing the Trump administration. Also: no, Trump can't order a new census just because he doesn't like the actual numbers. And the Supreme Court tees up an argument advanced by Clarence Thomas to gut what remains of the Voting Rights Act.

    Links:

    Donate to Kel McClanahan!

    www.nationalsecuritylaw.org/donate

    Robinson v. Callais [Supreme Court docket]

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-110.html

    Voting Rights Act, 52 U.S.C. § 103 et seq.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/subtitle-I/chapter-103

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    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

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    1 hr 3 min
  • Ep 156 — Mess With Texas!

    What's going on in Texas, where Democrats have walked out of the state legislature in an effort to thwart (or at least postpone) handing Donald Trump five more congressional seats in the 2026 midterms. Is it a crime? Does it break norms? And most importantly: will it work? And we check back in with the administration's efforts to keep Alina Habba on a job she's not legally entitled to have and for which she has zero qualifications. What could possibly go wrong??

    Links:

    Texas HB4

    https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=891&Bill=HB4

    Texas HB4 Map

    https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/30/texas-redistricting-congressional-maps-house-republicans/

    Texas Constitution

    https://tlc.texas.gov/docs/legref/TxConst.pdf

    Texas House Rules

    https://www.house.texas.gov/pdfs/resources/House-Rules.pdf

    US v. Giraud

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69409922/united-states-v-giraud-iii/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    48 min
  • Ep 155 — We FOIAed The Justice Department & Poor Alan Dershowitz Still Can't Get A Snack

    The Department of Justice has filed an ethics complaint against the Chief Judge of the District Court in DC, James Boasberg, and we've enlisted Kel McClanahan to help us figure out what (if any) evidence the Trump administration has to support its claims. Plus, Liz and Andrew listened to the Federal Circuit's oral argument over Trump's tariffs. And what does a disgraced former superlawyer have to do to get a pierogi in Martha's Vineyard?? For our subscribers, we chortle with glee at the return of the Super Best Election Lawyer in All the Land!

    Links:

    Boasberg Judicial Misconduct Complaint via Courthouse News

    https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/FINAL-Misconduct-Complaint-7.28.pdf

    EXCLUSIVE: Memo Reveals D.C. Judges Are Predisposed Against Trump Administration

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/07/16/exclusive-memo-reveals-d-c-judges-are-predisposed-against-trump-administration/

    Newsom v. Trump [docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70496361/newsom-v-trump/?order_by=desc

    Biden v. Byrne [docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67990012/robert-hunter-biden-v-patrick-m-byrne/

    Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, 18 U.S. Code § 1385

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1385

    VOS v. Trump (tariffs - US Court of International Trade) [via Court Listener]

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cit.17080/gov.uscourts.cit.17080.55.0.pdf

    VOS v. Trump (tariffs - Federal Circuit) - admin stay [via Court Listener]

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cafc.23105/gov.uscourts.cafc.23105.7.0.pdf

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    1 hr 1 min
  • Ep 154 — Habba Dabba DOH!

    The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein continues to haunt Donald Trump, so he sent his attorney Todd Blanche to Florida to visit Ghislaine Maxwell for an exorcism. Despite the Supreme Court's valiant efforts, lower courts are still refusing to let the Trump administration un-person children of immigrants. And Alina Habba is back in her office at the US Attorney's office in New Jersey pretending to be a real prosecutor.

    Links:

    Ghislaine Maxwell SCOTUS Docket

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-1073.html

    Trump v. Murdoch Docket

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70843413/trump-v-murdoch/?order_by=desc

    New Jersey v. Trump Docket

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69561497/state-of-new-jersey-v-trump

    Federal Vacancies Reform Act

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-III/subpart-B/chapter-33/subchapter-III

    28 USC 546

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/546

    NLRB v. SW General, 580 U.S. 288 (2017)

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10679305642695926350

    Biden v. Byrne Docket

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67990012/parties/robert-hunter-biden-v-patrick-m-byrne/

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    1 hr 2 min
  • Ep 153 — The Shadow Docket Gets Shadier

    The Supreme Court can't be bothered to do real law — but they still expect trial judges to read their minds and treat those nebulous shadow docket orders like binding precedent. And that invisible ink precedent says that Trump can fire anyone, anywhere, at any time. Abrego Garcia is still dancing on the knife edge between Trump's DOJ and his DHS. And we explain why the current state of our media is all Hulk Hogan's fault.

    Links:

    SCOTUS Shadow Docket Order Trump v. Wilcox

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a966_1b8e.pdf

    SCOTUS Shadow Docket Order Trump v. Boyle

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/25a11_2cp3.pdf

    Harper v. Bessent Docket

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69951586/harper-v-bessent/

    Abrego Garcia v. Noem [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem

    US v. Garcia [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70475970/united-states-v-garcia

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    57 min
  • Ep 152 — Trial Judges Know What's Up

    Today on the show the First Circuit is reversing DOGE's "DEI" cuts at NIH. Trump is suing the Wall Street Journal for defamatory reporting that he was friends with that pedophile he used to party with all the time. And trial courts are calling SCOTUS's shadow docket bluff. Plus, Alina Habba is headed for the exit.

    Links:

    SCOTUS Shadow Docket Order Dept. of Education v. California

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a910_f2bh.pdf

    American Public Health Association v. National Institutes of Health

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70621936/american-public-health-association-v-national-institutes-of-health/

    CREW v. OMB

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69858087/citizens-for-responsibility-and-ethics-in-washington-v-office-of/

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    1 hr 1 min
  • Ep 151 — This Is All The Supreme Court's Fault

    What do Trump's plans to fire Fed Chair Jerome Powell, level illegal tariffs, and stuff the court with his cronies have in common? They're all the fault of the Supreme Court's six conservatives. Then we'll take a break from … all this … and learn some more civil procedure from Justin Baldoni.

    Links:

    Can Trump Actually Fire Fed Chair Jerome Powell?

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/can-trump-actually-fire-fed-chair

    SCOTUS Order in Trump v. Wilcox

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a966_1b8e.pdf

    Lively v. Wayfairer

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69510553/lively-v-wayfarer-studios-llc/?order_by=desc

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    1 hr
  • Ep 150 — SCOTUS Allows Trump To Burn Down Department of Education

    The Supreme Court is handing out lit matches and gasoline to the arsonist in chief and inviting him to burn down the Department of Education. Attorney Pam Bondi keeps inventing new ways to be corrupt, and none of them have to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And DHS is now kidnapping IP along with actual human beings. Plus, for subscribers, we'll talk about an effort by Americans United for the Separation of Church and state's efforts to save the Johnson Amendment from the DOJ's collusion with the Christian right.

    Links:

    Trump v. Selzer

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69476247/trump-v-selzer/

    US v. Plastic Surgery Institute of Utah

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66735053/united-states-v-plastic-surgery-institute-of-utah/

    Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/two-thirds-doj-unit-defending-trump-policies-court-have-quit-2025-07-14/

    Black Rebel Motorcycle Club Instagram C&D

    https://www.instagram.com/p/DL8JVH7OIJ-/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=63f144d7-f9ed-4213-8170-f6432849d3fb

    US v. Amesty

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69553068/united-states-v-amesty/

    Judge Orders ICE Goons To Stop Racial Profiling And Start Following The Constitution

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/judge-orders-ice-goons-to-stop-racial

    Vasquez Perdomo v. Noem

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70594806/pedro-vasquez-perdomo-v-kristi-noem/

    Supreme Court stay New York v. McMahon

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a1203_pol1.pdf

    National Religious Broadcasters v. Werful

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69105317/national-religious-broadcasters-v-werfel/

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

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    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    48 min
  • Ep 149 — You Cannot Lie (To Judges) When Whistleblowers Have Receipts!

    Trump's executive order stripping citizenship from children of immigrants has been enjoined again. Will the Supreme Court burn down another plank of civil procedure just to avoid ruling on it? And DOJ whistleblower Erez Reuveni is dropping receipts! He's got all the texts and emails that prove Trump's henchman Emil Bove ordered the DOJ to defy court orders. That's going to make it a lot harder for his former colleagues to lie to judges in immigration cases, and those judges are already PISSED. Plus Republican state AGs in Florida and Missouri are wilding out. And for subscribers, let's talk about Trump's threats to tariff Brazil for prosecuting former president Jair Bolsonaro.

    Links:

    Barbara v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70651853/barbara-v-trump/

    MO AG Andy Bailey threatens AI for MEAN TO TRUMP

    https://ago.mo.gov/attorney-general-bailey-fights-to-expose-big-tech-censorship-of-president-trump-as-ai-chatbots-produce-fake-news/

    Erez Reuveni Whistleblower Disclosures

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/dem/releases/durbin-releases-documents-corroborating-justice-department-whistleblowers-allegations-against-embattled-trump-judicial-pick-emil-bove

    J.O.P. v. Department of Homeland Security [District Court Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/15867241/jop-v-us-department-of-homeland-security

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

    54 min

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