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Law and Chaos

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  • Ep 38 — Alex Jones's Bankruptcy Is TURNIN' THE FREAKIN' FROGS GAY!

    It's another Trump-free extravaganza! We discuss the Hunter Biden conviction, forthcoming sentencing and appeals. Then, Liz and Andrew walk through the Supreme Court's 9-0 reversal of the Fifth Circuit, protecting – for now! – the right to medical abortion drugs over the internet. Finally, in a lengthy segment (with a long Patreon bonus!), we tell you everything you need to know about a critical juncture in the Alex Jones corporate bankruptcy in the face of likely and deliberate misinformation by Alex Jones regardless of what happens.

    Links:

    L&C Episode 28

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-28-throwing-shade-on-the-supreme-court-feat-steve-vladeck/

    FSS - Lee Reply brief re: retention of Schwartz

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.176.0.pdf

    FSS - Hearing transcript re: Shannon & Lee, Schwartz

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.194.0.pdf

    FSS - Order to employ Patrick Magill as Chief Restructuring Officer (October 13, 2022) [Doc. 239]

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.239.0_2.pdf

    FSS - Magill Engagement Agreement

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.205.1.pdf

    FSS - Emergency Motion for Court Instructions Regarding (1) Disposition of Debtors Property, and (2) Clarity as to the Chief Restructuring Officers Responsibilities and Authority, in the Event of Either a Dismissal of This Case or Conversion to Chapter 7

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.933.0.pdf

    ACB article on LLC management

    https://www.americancollegeofbankruptcy.com/file.cfm/29/docs/Consumer%20Panel.Administering%20LLC%20Interests%20in%20Bankruptcy%20-%20Final.Caruso.pdf

    FSS - TX Plaintiff's Objection

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.945.0.pdf

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    54 min
  • Ep 37 — PA Dad Takes On Moms For Liberty (feat. Joy Ramsingh and Darren Laustsen)

    Pennsylvania dad Darren Laustsen saw books disappearing from his daughter's school — books which just so happened to be on the Moms for Liberty hit list. And he did something about it! Andrew and Liz talk to Darren and his lawyer Joy Ramsingh about their open records case that revealed a school board plot to shadowban books.

    Links:

    Laustsen v. Pennridge SD docket

    https://propublic.buckscountyonline.org/PSI/v/detail/Case/6253965

    SB answer

    https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/Appeals/DocketGetFile.cfm?id=129351

    10/19/23 Order

    https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/Appeals/DocketGetFile.cfm?id=139446

    Uncovering the Cover-up: How Republican Pennridge School Board Directors Secretly Banned Books

    https://buckscountybeacon.com/2024/05/uncovering-the-cover-up-how-republican-pennridge-school-board-directors-secretly-banned-books/

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    1 hr 8 min
  • Ep 36 — Bad News For Ken Chesebro. And For Asbestos!

    We update you on all of the states that have brought criminal charges against those involved in the "fake electors" plot to try and keep Donald Trump in the White House after he lost the 2020 election, including in particular the latest criminal complaint filed against Ken Chesbro in Wisconsin. In the B segment, we tell you how the Biden administration FINALLY banned asbestos. In 2024.

    Links:

    Chesebro "The Real Deadline for Settling a State's Electoral Votes" memo

    https://app.box.com/s/ifis7hu74dz6xp0awkq567ygetrvcof1/file/1460145645094

    AZ fake electors indictment

    https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/PHX-%2312079639-v1-TRUE_BILL_-_INDICTMENT_93_SGJ_81.PDF

    GA indictment

    https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/08/CRIMINAL-INDICTMENT-Trump-Fulton-County-GA.pdf

    Georgia Court of Appeals, Stay of Roman v. State (AKA the Trump RICO case)

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24735877/stayproceedings.pdf

    WI indictment

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24731470/24cf1293-24cf1294-24cf1295.pdf

    Corrosion Proof Fittings v. EPA

    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/947/1201/153685/

    ACC Letter to EPA re asbestos use

    http://src.bna.com/iuL

    Ural Asbest's Facebook page

    Trump insane asbestos tweet

    Link

    EPA's final rule on asbestos, 40 CFR Part 751

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2024-03-28/pdf/2024-05972.pdf

    EPA Factfinding pursuant to the TSCA

    https://www.epa.gov/assessing-and-managing-chemicals-under-tsca/risk-management-asbestos-part-1-chrysotile-asbestos

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    51 min
  • Ep 35 — Judge Cannon Drops The Ball. Plus Your Trump Trial Questions Answered!

    We answer your follow-up questions on the Trump verdict in New York, remind you that Aileen Cannon continues to get worse and worse in the Trump documents case in FL, talk about Sam Alito's fondness for flags, and give you an extra-long patreon bonus on Stan Woodward's dedication to NOT his client.

    Links:

    Alito

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24698834-letter-from-justice-alito-to-senators-durbin-and-whitehouse

    Noreika denial of Hunter Biden MTD on invalidity of special counsel

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.82797/gov.uscourts.ded.82797.101.0.pdf

    18 U.S.C. 2

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2

    Nauta MTD February 28, 2024.

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.352.0.pdf

    Gov't opp Nauta MTD March 7, 2024

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.378.0.pdf

    Trump and Nauta motion for extension of time March 11, 2024

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.386.0_3.pdf

    Nauta reply brief May 20, 2024

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.556.0.pdf

    Nauta Notice of Supplemental Authority

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.582.0.pdf

    United States v. Tobon-Builes, 706 F.2d 1092, 1101 (11th Cir. 1983)

    https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-tobon-builes

    Seattle Times on law excluding felons

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/plot-twist-for-trump-wa-has-a-law-against-felons-running-for-office/

    RCW 29A.68.020

    https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=29A.68.020

    Trump v. Anderson

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-719_19m2.pdf

    Eisen NYT on sentencing

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/opinion/donald-trump-trial-prison.html

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    1 hr 7 min
  • Ep 34 — GUILTY

    IT IS FINISHED. Today, the jury in New York unanimously agreed that Donald Trump committed 34 felonies, falsifying business records in the first degree, when he repaid Michael Cohen for secretly paying off Stormy Daniels to bury her story right before the 2016 election. What does it all mean and what comes next? Listen and find out!

    Links:

    NY Penal Law 175.10

    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/

    New York Penal Sec. 70

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/70.00

    New York Penal Sec. 65

    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-65-00/

    New York Penal Sec. 530.50 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/CPL/530.50

    Jury Instructions

    https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Jury%20Instructions%20and%20Charges%20FINAL%205-23-24.pdf

    Georgia Code §42-8-60

    https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-42/chapter-8/article-3/section-42-8-60/

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    58 min
  • Ep 33 — Trump Trials: What Does The Manhattan DA Have To Do To Secure A Conviction?

    Trump's false business records case goes to the jury in New York. Liz and Andrew break down the charges and the jury instructions, as well as debunking some of Trumpland's wildest lies about the law.

    Links:

    CITES

    NY PEN 175.05

    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-05/

    NY PEN 175.10

    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/

    Cohen plea deal

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax

    NY Election law 17-152

    New York Criminal Pattern Jury Instructions (CJI)

    https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/5-SampleCharges/CJI2d.Final_Instructions.pdf

    FECA jury instruction

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688857/2024-05-21-joint-feca-jury-charge-request.pdf

    accomplice liability jury instruction

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688848/2024-05-21-joint-accomplice-as-a-matter-of-law-jury-charge-request.pdf

    elements of the offense jury instruction

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688855/2024-05-21-joint-falsifying-business-records-charge-request.pdf

    17-152 jury instruction

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24688854/2024-05-21-joint-election-law-17-152-jury-charge-request.pdf

    Written retainer agreement issue

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/new-york/title-22/subtitle-B/chapter-IV/subchapter-E/part-1215

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    1 hr 8 min
  • Ep 32 — SCOTUS Says Racial Gerrymanders Are Very Cool and Very Legal

    Liz and Andrew break down the latest Supreme Court horror ruling, greenlighting racial gerrymandering to all Republicans to choose their voters, and not the other way around. And then it's off to Florida to catch up on the latest wacka**ery in the Trump stolen docs case.

    Links:

    Rucho v. Common Cause (2019)

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6090361490276671133

    Gill v. Whitford (2018)

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-1161_dc8f.pdf

    Alexander v. S.C. NAACP (2024)

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-807_3e04.pdf

    Rudy bankruptcy order denying leave to appeal

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.230.0.pdf

    Beryl Howell's order abrogating attorney-client privilege

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.561.4.pdf

    In re Grand Jury Proc., 142 F.3d 1416, 1428 (11th Cir. 1998)

    https://casetext.com/case/in-re-grand-jury-proceedings-57

    11 U.S. Code § 362

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/362

    Giuliani motion for relief from stay

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.195.1.pdf

    Giuliani appeal schedule

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.195.2.pdf

    Freeman/Moss opp

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.207.0.pdf

    Giuliani Bankruptcy Order denying relief

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.230.0.pdf

    Freeman/Moss complaint for injunctive relief

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.218.0.pdf

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    51 min
  • Ep 31 — The Trump Trials: What Are They Thinking? (Plus Clarence Thomas Surprises Us All)

    Trump's lawyers make a bevy of unforced errors as their client continues to march ever closer to a conviction in New York for fraud in concealing the payoff payment to Stormy Daniels. Also, the Supreme Court surprises us, sort of, for now, by not sacking the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and by allowing a Louisiana congressional map to go into effect that doubles the minority representation in that state.

    Links:

    12 U.S.C. § 5481 et seq.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/chapter-53/subchapter-V

    CFPB Initial Report, July 18, 2011

    https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/2011/07/Report_BuildingTheCfpb1.pdf

    2023 Pew Research on Payday Loans

    https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2023/06/02/payday-loans-and-overdraft-a-short-history-and-whats-next

    "How Payday Loans Work"

    https://paydayloaninfo.org/how-payday-loans-work/

    Bankrate's Emergency Savings Report

    https://www.bankrate.com/banking/savings/emergency-savings-report/

    Alito protest flag

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/justice-alito-upside-down-flag.html?smtyp=cur&smid=bsky-nytimes

    CFPB v. CFSA

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-448_o7jp.pdf

    Landry v. Callais

    Application for stay

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A1002/309522/20240510115206439_Landry%20v.%20Callais%20-%20Emergency%20Stay%20App-FINAL.pdf

    Opp

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A1002/309633/20240513120736126_COMBINED%20DOCUMENT.pdf

    Jackson dissent

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23a994_7mip.pdf

    New York Penal Law § 175.10

    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10

    Order on Motion in Limine to exclude Smith

    https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-Security-NY-2016-Election-Interference-Case-Clearinghouse-Order-on-State-of-New-York-motions-in-limine-March-18-2024.pdf

    New York Rule 6.11

    https://www.nycourts.gov/JUDGES/evidence/6-WITNESSES/6.11_Impeachment,%20when%20authorized.pdf

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    51 min
  • Ep 30 — The Trump Trials: SLEAZE-A-PALOOZA!

    The Trump trial in New York is racing toward the finish line, with Michael Cohen potentially the last witness. Meanwhile in DC, Steve Bannon reaches the findout on his contempt of congress charge.

    Links:

    US v. Navarro [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63359365/united-states-v-navarro/

    2 U.S.C. § 192

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/192

    18 U.S.C. § 3624

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3624

    18 U.S.C. § 3632

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3632

    18 U.S.C. § 3633

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3633

    Sentencing Project on the First Step Act

    https://www.sentencingproject.org/policy-brief/the-first-step-act-ending-mass-incarceration-in-federal-prisons/

    Gov. Abbott pardons Daniel Perry immediately after Texas parole board recommendation

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/state/2024/05/16/daniel-perry-pardon-recommended-garrett-foster/73719220007/

    Jim Jordan Letter NYAG James

    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/JDJ%20to%20AG%20Letitia%20James%20re%20Colangelo.pdf

    Judiciary Subcommittee on Weaponization of Federal Government Hearing

    https://judiciary.house.gov/committee-activity/hearings/hearing-weaponization-federal-government-8

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    1 hr 6 min
  • Ep 29 — The Trump Trials: She Is The Storm

    Liz and Andrew check in on the latest hilarity from Stefanie Lambert, the Kraken alum who's now been arrested twice for trying to overthrow the 2020 election. Then, they break down last week in Trump's NY trial with a focus on Stormy Daniels' testimony and what the DA's office has left to prove.

    Links:

    New York Penal Law § 175.10

    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10

    Dominion v. Byrne Lambert Motion to Adjourn

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316.98.0.pdf

    Dominion v. Byrne supplemental minute order

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60120428/us-dominion-inc-v-byrne/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc#minute-entry-389654982

    Dominion v. Byrne Lambert supplemental filing

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316/gov.uscourts.dcd.234316.101.0.pdf

    Dominion v. Byrne minute order rescheduling hearing

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60120428/us-dominion-inc-v-byrne/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc#minute-entry-389808159

    Quinta Jurecic Lawfare article on Trump NY

    https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-must-prosecutors-prove-in-trump-s-ny-trial

    Federal Election Campaigns Act of 1971, 52 U.S.C. § 30101 et seq.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/subtitle-III/chapter-301/subchapter-I

    FEC dismissal of Stormy Daniels inquiry (2021)

    https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Just-Security-Hush-Money-New-York-Trump-Clearinghouse-—-FEC-Michael-Cohen-et-al.-FEC-Case-Dismissal-Commissioners-Statement-of-Reasons-April-26-2021.pdf

    FEC dissent re dismissal of Stormy Daniels inquiry

    https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Just-Security-Hush-Money-New-York-Trump-Clearinghouse-—-Michael-Cohen-et-al.-FEC-Case-Dissent-from-Dismissal-Commissioners-Statement-of-Reasons-May-6-2021.pdf

    New York election law § 17-152

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/ELN/17-152

    People v. Taveras, 12 N.Y.3d 21 (N.Y. 2009)

    https://casetext.com/case/people-v-taveras-41

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    43 min

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