Gretchen and Katie wrap up their conversation on parenting, otherwise known as "calling a thing what it is." They talk about confession and absolution in the home and standing back when we try to take over the Holy Spirit's role.

When our kids face failures, they will either give up, or beat themselves into self-righteous Pharisees, and it's important to teach them how to deal with failure. They talk about teaching kids that their value and peace comes not from the world, or their works, but from Christ and Christ alone.

Katie's 1517 article Resilient Kids

Foot story in episode "From Guilt to Confession"

Thinking Fellows episode: Repent!