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By Dirk Verburg
Welcome to the 'Leadership 2.0' podcast!
I believe that leadership is very important for two reasons. First of all, the decisions leaders take, and their capabilities to implement
The podcast currently has 43 episodes available.
There are some companies I deeply admire, and On, the Swiss sports and apparel brand is definitely one of them! Not only do they make amazing products and have an extremely powerful brand, they also have a unique company culture.
For this reason, I was thrilled to sit down with Alessandra del Pino, Head of Engagement & Talent Growth at On, to discuss the company culture of On, or, as Alessandra describes it, their 'secret sauce'.
During our conversation, we covered the following topics:
About On
‘On was born in the Swiss Alps with one goal: to revolutionize the sensation of running by empowering all to run on clouds. Since its market launch in 2010, On delivers industry-disrupting innovation in premium footwear, apparel, and accessories for high-performance running, outdoor,
training, all-day activities and tennis. On is present in more than 60 countries globally and is believed to be one of the fastest-growing scaled athletic sports companies in the world’. The company employs more than 2.300 staff and generated net sales of CHF 1,792.1 in 2023 (source Annual report)
About Alessandra del Pino
Alessandra del Pino is Head of Engagement & Talent Growth at On. After studying Sociology in Venezuela, she started a journey in HR which would take her across the globe, working for completely different companies in different industries. Alessandra started her career in 2011 working for Groupon in Spain, before moving to Burger King. In 2015 she moved to Canada to for Restaurant Brands International, a company she also worked for both in Canada, as well as Switzerland. In 2019 she joined On, first as a Talent Business Partner, and later as Head of Engagement & Talent Growth.
Alessandra likes running (not surprising!), Spanish wines (same), good food, and traveling.
Important keywords and concepts in the conversation
Values as spirits - Spirit award - Rituals to express the company culture - Trust and Collaboration as key values - Wall-less office - No reception - Well being - Dealing with low performers - Team members instead of Staff or Employees
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‘Everyone who wins nowadays is challenging the Shareholder Value Maximization doctrine’
This is just one of the powerful and thought-provoking statements Professor Michael Pirson (Fordham University - Gabelli School of Business) made when I interviewed him about 'Humanistic Management'.
In the last decades, the shortcomings of the neo-liberal economic order in our society have become clearer than ever (e.g. the credit crunch, climate change, and wars). An increasing number of people want to move away from a system that commoditizes human beings, and the natural environment in which they live. They seek, amongst others, dignity, a sense of purpose, and attention to well-being, instead of material prosperity only.
Humanistic Management is a relatively young academic movement that seeks to create a more balanced relationship between those things that can be exchanged on markets and those that are not but make life worthwhile.
Michael Pirson is an active member of this movement, and in this episode of the Leadership 2.0 podcast, I discuss with him
1️⃣ What Humanistic Management is
2️⃣ How Michael discovered Humanistic Management
3️⃣ What we as mankind can learn from the Covid 19 Pandemic
4️⃣ Measuring Wealth versus Wellbeing
5️⃣ Will Shareholder Value (Economistic Management) not always prevail?
6️⃣ Is Humanistic Management 'industry agnostic'?
7️⃣ Resources on Humanistic Management
8️⃣ Final Thoughts
About Michael Pirson
Michael Pirson, Ph.D., is the chair of the Leading People and Organizations Area within the Gabelli School of Business. He is the James A. F. Stoner Endowed Chair in Global Sustainability and is a full professor with a focus on global sustainability and social entrepreneurship. Michael is a research associate at Harvard University’s Human Flourishing Program (HFP). He co-founded the Humanistic Management Network and is founder and president of the International Humanistic Management Association. He is the editor in chief of the Humanistic Management Journal.
Additionally he is a full member of the Club of Rome, leads the Humanistic Management working group at the UNPRME, and advises a number of social enterprises. He has won numerous awards for his work including from the Academy of Management and the Association of Jesuit Universities.
Website
https://www.humanetwork.org/
Publications
https://www.fordham.edu/gabelli-school-of-business/faculty/full-time-faculty/michael-pirson/
Other resources
https://www.youtube.com/user/HumanisticManagementhttps://www.youtube.com/@UCLQhzwfw3QgAtLv_h5P9N3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEGqEeiA5c0
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'A transformational read that every leader of today needs'. These were the words Head Judge, Jacq Burns used when she announced that 'Leader As Healer', written by Nicholas Janni was selected as the overall winner for the 2023 Business Book Awards.
The book argues that, given the current challenges our society faces, we need a new leadership model. Our current leadership model is one where we see great leaders as warriors 'on the battlefield of relentless competition', who drive action, pursue instrumental goals (shareholder value), and maintain transactional relationships. Instead, Nicholas Janni pleads for leaders who are empathetic, intuitive, present, and skilled in mindfulness, deep listening, and who can inspire colleagues to engage and collaborate.
In this episode of the Leadership 2.0 podcast, I discuss with Nicholas
1️⃣ What does 'The Leader as Healer' mean?
2️⃣ What is the positive difference leaders as healers can make?
3️⃣ Why did 'The Leader as Healer' become business book of the year 2023?
4️⃣ Why our society and many organizations are 'broken'
5️⃣ Why leaders as healers occasionally need to use a scalpel
6️⃣ Why emotions are important and need to be taken seriously
7️⃣ How can leaders become healers?
8️⃣ Practical exercises for leaders
9️⃣ Final thoughts
About Nicholas Janni
Nicholas Janni has devoted his life to the study of human potential. Over the last 20 years he has gained an international reputation for his transformational coaching and leadership development seminars. He works with organisations, NGO’s and senior leaders worldwide and currently teaches at the IMD Business School in Switzerland and the University of Oxford Said Business School. He bridges the worlds of creative, personal, spiritual and professional development in a uniquely powerful, relevant and accessible way.
IIn his first career he was a theatre director. He taught acting at The Royal Academy of Dramatic Art in London and directed his own theatre company. He has spent over 30 years researching the theory and the practice of ‘the zone’ of peak performance in art, life and work, and has studied and practiced multiple mind/body disciplines. He trained intensively for five years with Thomas Hubl, studying how to work with personal, intergenerational and collective trauma, and has led ongoing groups in the US, UK and Israel.
Matrix Development
In January 2023 he launched a new platform, and became co-founder and Programme Director of MATRIX DEVELOPMENT http://www.thematrixdevelopment.com
Website
https://www.nicholasjanni.com/
Book
https://www.nicholasjanni.com/book-leader-as-healer/
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Twenty years ago, in 2004, Shell was hit by the reserves scandal. In the midst of this crisis, the board asked Jeroen van der Veer to become CEO and navigate the company out of this crisis.
Recently Jeroen wrote a book titled 'Van A naar B - Lessen in leiderschap' ('From A to B - Lessons in Leadership'), in which he reflects on these, and other experiences during his long career (which also included for instance being the chairman of the supervisory board of ING during the financial crisis).
In this episode of the Leadership 2.0 podcast, I discuss with Jeroen
1️⃣ How his leadership style evolved in the 40 + years of his career in Shell
2️⃣ Which authors in the area of management and leadership inspired him
3️⃣ Why the board asked him to become CEO to navigate Shell out of this crisis.
4️⃣ How he personally experienced his appointment
5️⃣ How he established his plan to move Shell out of this crisis
6️⃣ His top team in Shell during his five years as CEO
7️⃣ Decision he regrets
8️⃣ The three leadership lessons in his book 'From A to B - Lessons in Leadership'
9️⃣ The different world graduates face nowadays
🔟 Final thoughts
About Jeroen van der Veer
Jeroen studied mechanical engineering and economics. He worked for Shell from 1971 to 2009, the last 5 years as CEO. He also took on a number of supervisory board positions, e.g. in ING, Unilever, Boskalis, Equinor, Philips and the Dutch Central Bank. Other key and high-profile activities included Chairmanships for the World Economic Forum and Co-chair with Madeleine Albright for the new NATO Strategic Concept.
Jeroen's boek 'Van A naar B': Lessen in Leiderschap
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With the publication of his bestseller 'HR Champions' in 1997, Dave Ulrich signaled the potential for HR functions to develop themselves from administrative functions into mission-critical ones for the business (my words—not Dave's!).
Dave Ulrich is the Rensis Likert Professor at the Ross School of Business, University of Michigan and a partner at the RBL Group, a consulting firm focused on helping organizations and leaders deliver value.
During our conversation, Dave and I discussed the following topics:
0️⃣1️⃣ Dave's drive to write 'Human Resource Champions'
0️⃣2️⃣ The consequences of the lack of self-confidence exhibited by many HR organizations
0️⃣3️⃣ 'HR is not your friend'. Really?
0️⃣4️⃣ If the current data-centricity in HR functions does not lead to the detriment of intuition and human judgment
0️⃣5️⃣ What the HR agenda should look like in 2024
0️⃣6️⃣ Where the ultimate accountability and responsibility for staff in organizations rest
About Dave Ulrich
Dave Ulrich published over 200 articles and book chapters and over 30 books. He edited Human Resource Management1990-1999, served on editorial board of 4 other journals and on the Board of Directors for Herman Miller (16 years), has spoken to large audiences in 90 countries; performed workshops for over half of the Fortune 200; coached successful business leaders, and is a Distinguished Fellow in the National Academy of Human Resources.
He is known for continually learning, turning complex ideas into simple solutions, and creating real value to those he works with as he defines human capability as the next agenda for people and organization. He posts weekly and comments daily on LinkedIn.
Organization - With co-authors, he has influenced thinking about modern
organizations (Reinventing the Organization) by empirically showing how organization delivers 4 times business results over talent (Victory Through Organization), defined organizations as bundles of capabilities (Organization Capability) and worked to delineate capabilities of talent management (Why of Work; Talent Accelerator), culture change (GE Workout), learning (Learning Organization Capability), and collaboration (Boundaryless Organization).
Leadership - With colleagues, he has also articulated the basics of effective leadership (Leadership Code and Results Based Leadership), connected leadership with customers (Leadership Brand), shown how leadership delivers market value (Why the Bottom Line Isn’t), shapes investor expectations with an ability to measure leadership (Leadership
Capital Index), and synthesized ways to ensure that leadership aspirations turn into actions (Leadership Sustainability).
Human Resources - He and his colleagues have shaped the HR profession and he has been called the “father of modern HR” and “HR thought leader of the decade” by focusing on HR outcomes, governance, competencies, and practices (HR Champions; HR Value Added; HR Transformation; HR Competencies; HR Outside In). He spearheaded a “gift” book on the future of HR (The Rise of HR) distributed to over 1,500,000 HR professionals), in which 70 thought leaders freely shared their insights.
He posts articles (over 200) and newsletter on Linkedin weekly.
Resources
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'I defy anybody to be energized by most appraisal systems I have seen in my career' - Sally Bibb
Most HR professionals and line managers (present company included!) are used to focusing on the 'development areas' of their staff. The idea is to take the areas of strength for granted and to actively work on their weaknesses to foster their professional development.
The question is, however, how effective this is, and which business opportunities we miss, by not building on the strengths of our staff.
During our conversation, Sally and I discussed the following topics:
0️⃣1️⃣ What Strength Management actually is
0️⃣2️⃣ How Sally became interested in the topic
0️⃣3️⃣ Is Strength Management incompatible with a Growth Mindset?
0️⃣4️⃣ Why most HR professionals remain focused on Development Areas
0️⃣5️⃣ Implementing Strength Management in HR Processes
0️⃣6️⃣ How can appraisals be improved?
0️⃣7️⃣ Is strength management a generational phenomenon?
0️⃣8️⃣ Will AI support Strength Management?
0️⃣9️⃣ Issues Sally is asked to address by her clients
1️⃣0️⃣ Final thoughts on strength management
Sally Bibb is a partner at PA Consulting, leader and author in the field of strengths-based approaches to people and organisations.
She started her career working for BT International and then moved into an international role at The Economist Group before founding the strengths consultancy Engaging Minds in 2012. In 2021, she joined PA Consulting as a partner to advance her vision of bringing strengths to many more employers worldwide.
In this role, she leads strengths-based organizational change work in Europe, the USA, and Asia, and has built a track record of achieving transformational results for a number of high-profile clients in both the private, as well as in the public sector.
Sally has an MSc in organizational change from the University of Surrey and has (co-)authored eight books. A full list can be found in the resource section!
She is a fellow of the RSA (Royal Society of Arts) and a member of the steering committee of The Daedalus Trust, a charity founded by Lord David Owen to promote research into hubris syndrome in business.
Resources:
- Website Sally Bibb: https://sallybibb.com/
- Books by Sally Bibb:
The Right Thing: An Everyday Guide to Ethics in Business
Generation Y for Rookies
A Question of Trust: The Crucial Nature of Trust in Business, Work & Life – and How to Build It (with Jeremy Kourdi)
The Stone Age Company: Why Companies Fail
Management f-Laws: How Organization really work (with Russell Ackoff and Herbert Addison)
Strengths-Based Recruitment and Development: A Practical Guide to Transforming Talent Management Strategy for Business Results
The Strengths Book: Discover How to Be Fulfilled in Your Work and in Life
The Strengths Workbook: An Eight-Week Programme to Discover Your Strengths and What Makes You Thrive
(https://sallybibb.com/my-books/)
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The statistics are sobering, not only do 49% of external executive hires end in failure within 18 months, but internal moves prove to be challenging as well. For instance, 40% of internal job moves involving high potentials also end in failure. Besides the fact that these failures often have a traumatic impact for the individuals involved, the costs for the organizations are huge. Not only in terms of imago and hiring costs but, more importantly, in terms of opportunity costs.
To find out why leadership transitions prove to be so hard, and what companies and individuals can do about it, I interviewed Michael Watkins for my Leadership 2.0 podcast.
Michael D Watkins is Professor of Leadership and Organizational Change. He is a globally recognized leadership transitions expert and author of several best-selling books, including ‘The First 90 Days: Proven Strategies for Getting Up to Speed Faster and Smarter’. Additionally, he is co-founder of Genesis Advisors, a company whose mission it is to accelerate leaders to to reach their full potential, energise teams to achieve peak performance, and transform organizations to outperform the competition
During our conversation, Michael and I discussed the following topics:
0️⃣1️⃣ Where Michael’s interest in (leadership) transitions stems from
0️⃣2️⃣ The importance of accelerating leadership transitions (ROI)
0️⃣3️⃣ Why many companies do not pay enough attention to leadership transitions
0️⃣4️⃣ Why do internal moves so often fail
0️⃣5️⃣ Homework for leaders who are about to make an internal move
0️⃣6️⃣ Why companies (too) often hire external talent
0️⃣7️⃣ Homework for leaders contemplating to make an external move
0️⃣8️⃣ External hires asked to drive change - but not to upset the system
0️⃣9️⃣ How can companies protect their investments in leadership transitions?
1️⃣0️⃣ Why did Michael founded Genesis Advisers and what does it do?
Resources:
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‘We live in a world of organizations - and we do not understand them’
This is one of the statements Henry Mintzberg, one of the leading thinkers in the field of Management, made when I interviewed him for my Leadership 2.0 Podcast about his latest book ‘Understanding Organizations…Finally'.
During our conversation, we discussed the following topics:
About Henry Mintzberg
Henry Mintzberg is the Cleghorn professor of management studies at the Desautels Faculty of Management, McGill University in Montreal. He was visiting professor at INSEAD, Carnegie-Mellon University, and the London Business School. He has been engaged as a consultant to a number of organizations, and was president of the Strategic Management Society from 1988 to 1991.
He is the author of 21 books, including ‘The Nature of Managerial Work’, ‘Managers not MBAs’, ‘Simply Managing’, ‘Rebalancing Society, Managing the Myths of Health Care’, and ‘Understanding Organizations...Finally!’ (2023). He also wrote 184 articles, numerous commentaries and produced videos.
He publishes a regular TWOG (TWeet 2 blOG), on Twitter and LinkedIn.
Finally Henry co-founded, and remains active, in the International Masters Program for Managers and the International Masters for Health Leadership, as well as the venture CoachingOurselves.com.
Resources
Website Henry Mintzberg: https://mintzberg.org/
Twitter Account Henry Mintzberg: @mintzberg141
International Masters Program for Managers: impm.org
International Masters for Health Leadership: mcgill.ca/imhl
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In this episode, I am interviewing Professor Eugene Sadler-Smith of the Surrey Business School about the role of intuition in decision-making processes.
During our conversation, we discussed the following topics:
1 What intuition is and what it is not
2 The two types of intuition
3 Adopting an Ambidextrous Mindset
4 How to take important decisions in business
5 Carl Jung and Intuition
6 Why the intuitive mind is a slow learner
7 Values and ethics in decision-making processes
8 Final Thoughts - AI and intuition
Eugene Sadler Smith is a Professor of Organizational Behaviour at the Surrey Business School. His research interests include hubris (in leadership, business, and politics) and intuition (in decision-making and creativity).
He published over 100 articles in peer-reviewed journals, and his research has featured on BBC Radio 4, BBC Local Radio, Sky TV, The Insight Channel, The Times, The Guardian, and others.
Eugene worked on research and executive education projects with, amongst others, Tesco, Mind Gym, ICSA, CIPD, Met Police, Surrey Police, Welsh Government, Forbes, Home Office and the Scottish Government.
He has written a number of books: Learning and Development for Managers (Blackwell, 2006); Inside Intuition (Routledge, 2008); The Intuitive Mind (John Wiley and Sons, 2010, translated into Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Russian); Hubristic Leadership (with a Foreword by Lord David Owen, SAGE, 2018); Human Resource Development: From Theory into Practice (SAGE, 2022), and ‘Intuition in Business’ (Oxford University Press in 2023).
In the next coming months two new books by his hand will be published ‘The Hubris Hazard, and how to avoid it’ (Routledge), and ‘Trust your gut: Go with your intuition and make better choices’ (Pearson Academic).
The E-Mail address of Eugene Sadler-Smith is: [email protected]
His website dedicated to the topic of Hubris is: www.thehubrishub.com
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Scenario thinking enables organizations to establish possible visions of the future in the form of scenarios. This enables decision-makers to think through the different ways in which the environment of their institutions could evolve in the future, based on different sets of assumptions.
One of the companies that is best known for its scenario-thinking activity is Shell. For decades, Shell’s scenarios have supported the decision-making of Shell leaders, academics, governments, and businesses.
Jeremy Bentham led this activity in Shell between 2006 and his retirement in 2022 as Shell Scenarios & strategy Leader and VP Global Business Environment.
In this episode of the Leadership 2.0 podcast, I am interviewing Jeremy Bentham about scenario thinking and leadership.
During our conversation, we discussed the following topics:
1 What scenario thinking is and what is it not
2 Why organizations should invest in scenario thinking
3 The development of scenario thinking in the past decades
4 The reason for Shell to start sharing (parts of) its scenarios with external stakeholders
5 The importance of engagement
6 Why and how scenario thinking could lead to wiser decisions
7 Strategic character
8 The possible role of scenario thinking in addressing crises our society faces
9 The Dodo club (recently established by Jeremy)
10 Final thoughts on the topic of scenario thinking
About Jeremy Bentham
Jeremy Bentham has a Degree in Physics from the University of Oxford and a Master's Degree in Management from the MIT Sloan School of Management.
From 1980 - 2022 he worked for Shell in various roles and functions, including as Chief Executive for Shell Hydrogen, and later as Shell Scenarios & strategy Leader and VP Global Business Environment, in charge of developing forward-looking scenarios to support strategic thinking and direction-setting.
Currently, Jeremy is Co-Chair (scenarios) & Senior Advisor for the World Energy Council, as well as being involved in several other organizations in the climate and sustainable development space, including the World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD), Illuminem, Pathfinder International, and the Mission Possible Partnership.
Additionally, he is a Senior Advisor for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG).
His interests include theater production, cinema, and art history.
The Dodo Club
Recently, Jeremy started a regular newsletter and vehicle for discussion and community building called 'the Dodo club. The purpose of this club is to help people and organizations make wiser decisions in the face of the radical uncertainties they are facing, including when grappling with issues of decarbonisation and energy transitions.
You can find this club, and sign up for the Newsletter at [https://thedodoclub.beehiiv.com/]
The E-Mail address of Jeremy Bentham is: [email protected]
Additional resources:
Jeremy Bentham: Decarbonisation Scenarios (youtube.com)
Jeremy Bentham: The energy transition (post Illuminem)
40 Years of Shell Scenarios
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