Where Matthias and Lauren discuss the concept - and helpfulness - of leadership and deference in animal training.

Also, they explore the complexities of balancing giving direction and allowing choice, debate whether our social relationships with animals allow for the human construct of leadership, and Matthias shares a story that explains why he wasn't awarded Father of the Year. Again.

Needle phobias/injection shyness in horses

The 'Buzzy' device for needle-phobic children

The 'Shot Blocker''s effect on pain perception in adults

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