Leonard David returned for a two hour program covering many topics. Overall, Leonard expressed a theme throughout the discussion that the commercial space economy was not yet in place and was taking way too long to develop. My opinion was similar but I said I was looking for indicators such as market demand to guide me. Both Leonard and I want to see this economy develop and prosper in our lifetime which is shortening for us both. Leonard had much to say about Starliner and Boeing, Starship, Musk, SpaceX, SLS, Blue and other entrepreneurial companies. He talked about life on Mars and near the end, we had a short UFO/UAP discussion. He said lots regarding NASA along with companies that don't make it. At one point he said he would like to hear a panel of failed CEO's talk about lessons learned. We had emails and phone calls. This was a discussion you must hear. Read the full summary at www.thespaceshow.com for this date, Sunday, August 18, 2024.