Let's Dig into That

It's time to talk money. Who's sweaty? Jordan and J.T. welcome Ed Vargo, the Co-Founder and CEO of Burning River Advisory Group and EnlightenHer, to discuss and demystify our finances. Ed believes a financial education shouldn’t make you feel small; it should make you feel powerful.

Ed’s passion for helping women with their finances stems from his childhood. His mother, an immigrant from South Korea, had four children with his father. After getting a divorce, she lost custody of her children due to her inability to support her family financially. Her unfortunate lack of financial literacy fueled Ed’s passion to empower women so that they can move through divorce confidently and without fear.

Listen to discover:

- How do we remove our emotional response to money so we can feel empowered when we manage our finances?

- Financial coaching: so, it doesn't need to be overwhelming, condescending, and confusing?

- The most damaging money myths we need to bust

- Raising financially educated kids

- Money scripts that aren't serving us and how to change them now

- Meaningful vs meaningless spending? When to have the talk?

- Ed's thoughts on combining finances. How about the second time around?

About Ed:

Ed Vargo is the Co-Founder and CEO of Burning River Advisory Group and EnlightenHer, a community focused on financial mentorship for women. With over 20 years in financial services, Ed helps women navigate long-term financial planning for all life stages, including retirement, college, and transitions related to divorce or death. His dedication is personal; inspired by his mother’s financial struggles after his parents' divorce, Ed is committed to empowering women to confidently manage their finances and avoid similar hardships. He is a member of the Financial Planning Association® and the Society of Financial Service Professionals. Ed is married with five daughters, ages 18-24, whom he has raised to be financially empowered young women!

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The Season 3 Questions are in - THANK YOU for your boundless curiosity! Jordan and J.T. are ready for the gauntlet of vulnerability, prepped to flex a little bravery and self-compassion.

Join the conversation for a mix of sexy, spicy, and slightly uncomfortable questions intended to crack us open and connect us all.

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Jordan and J.T. could not shake the idea that the alleged "end" of a relationship could be DIVORGASMIC, so they invited the Coach who coined the word to learn more. From the adjustment of being re-singled to giving yourself permission to seek joy, how can we better love and support each other in times of transition?

Karen McNenny, The Good Divorce Coach™, is changing the way families navigate divorce. We can agree that divorcing families are starved for better outcomes with less debt, destruction, and despair. Karen's signature Good Divorce Experience™ guides couples through the legal process of getting divorced, but more importantly, she teaches her clients HOW to be divorced. With her guidance, Karen’s clients learn to navigate the path of their divorce in a new way, with more hope for their family and compassion for themselves and their former spouse.

About KAREN:

Karen McNenny is a mediator, divorce coach, and therapist dedicated to transforming how families navigate divorce. Through her Good Divorce Experience™, she helps couples not only get divorced but also learn how to maintain healthy post-divorce relationships, especially when children are involved. With more than 25 years of expertise, Karen focuses on co-parenting, financial planning, and relationship literacy, guiding families toward compassionate outcomes. A TEDx speaker and host of the The Good Divorce Show Podcast™, Karen draws from her own divorce journey to offer hope and healing. She lives in Missoula, Montana, with her family and dog, enjoying the outdoors in the Rocky Mountains.

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From fun-haters to play-daters, when did we stop prioritizing delight? Is it irresponsible for adults to play, or is fun essential for a fulfilling life? No idea what fun means to you anymore? You are not alone! Join the conversation to discover:

- The elements of True Fun: playfulness, connection, & flow

- When did fun start to feel more like a luxury than a birthright?

- Know thyself: how can we treat fun like a spiritual practice rather than a break from work?

- The evolution of fun: exposing false or toxic fun; does scheduling fun kill the vibe?

- What are the signs you're in the flow?

- Why does fun sometimes feel like guilt, shame, or rebellion?

- Retrospective fun vs. the pleasure of anticipation

- Fun disconnectors and disrupters (like J.T.'s FOMO)

- The duration and intensity of joy vs. pleasure

- Looking for a good time? Cheap and cheerful ideas: go outside, hike, bike, picnic, volunteer, free museums, library date, swim, (pretend) camp, go to the beach, farmer's market, games, scavenger hunt, sidewalk chalk!

Fun is not a crime. But if it were, we’d be on the run!

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WOW! Buckle up, Love Ninjas, because Dr. Adam Dorsay is in the house! Silicon Valley's licensed psychologist, executive coach, author, and podcast host delivers mic-drop insights from his book Super Psyched: Unleash the Power of the 4 Types of Connection & Live the Life You Love.

This book changes the game. Join Jordan and J.T. as they dig into connection with the author himself. From his highly regarded TEDx Talks, lively keynotes, and award-winning podcast Super Psyched, Adam is the guru of gusto. Starting with a connection to self, determine what fills your cup. Adam shares his Connection Formula, a personalized prescription for a more fulfilling life. Don't miss the magic!

**If you're in a music rut, inspiration awaits!

THE MAN: Doting husband, father of two boys, and recent cat-loving convert. Connect with Adam on his website DrAdamDorsay.com, tune in for the podcast Super Psyched, and if you haven't already, treat yo'self and BUY THE BOOK!

THE BOOK: Adam Dorsay, PsyD, Super Psyched: Unleash the Power of the 4 Types of Connection & Live the Life You Love (Amplify, 2024)

THE MUSIC: George Michael, Prince, Rush, Wham!, Taylor Hawkins of The Foo, Enya...

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What is emotional infidelity, and who defines the line? Is it cheating, or are you just insecure? From a work spouse's special privileges to reconnecting with an old flame, Jordan and J.T. explore deep emotional connections outside the primary relationship. Join the conversation to discover:

- Micro-cheating: emotional affairs that begin as platonic friendships

- No physical contact necessary; it's time to talk about boundaries

- What is missing? What issues in the primary relationship cause us to seek emotional support and/or intimacy elsewhere?

- Signs of emotional infidelity: constant contact, deep sharing, secrecy, feelings of guilt, etc.

- The 7 Stages of Emotional Infidelity

- Flattery, flirtation, fixation, and fantasies

- Who is the priority? Does the friendship bond surpass that of the primary relationship?

- Complaining to the friend about the partner...would the partner approve?

- DMs and fire emojis: what is the threat of emotional infidelity online?

- Is emotional cheating real cheating? The significance of intent and impact.

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For anyone who has been told you should be grateful at exactly the wrong time, this episode is for you! For anyone tired of living a fear-driven life, this is the place! Could gratitude be the secret to lasting happiness, a gateway drug to growth? While Jordan and J.T. aren't making any promises, they are more than willing to flesh out the magnitude of gratitude. Join the conversation to discover:

- Gratitude is not about ignoring challenges but reorganizing the good

- Does gratitude come from the brain or the heart? Or both?

- Acknowledgment, respect, and a desire to understand: the foundation of giving a damn

- How do you practice gratitude without gaslighting your pain?

- The healing power of giving a hoot

- How a gratitude practice can enhance perspective

- Appreciating the specific, no gratitude is small

- Gratitude is emotional: notice and name what you feel

- Performative gratitude, toxic politeness, and gratitude as an act of rebellion

SHOW NOTE to make you go WOW: After he led the massive 2014 Venezuelan protests that swept the nation, opposition leader Leopoldo López was sentenced to more than a decade of solitary confinement in a military prison. His story is one of astonishing mental resilience, the strength of the human spirit, and the power of gratitude.

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Whoa! If you are unfamiliar with the concept of near enemies, you are not alone. Dr. Brené Brown strikes again! With a dose of Buddhist philosophy and Jordan and J.T.'s boundless curiosity, prepare to discover how these imposters can sabotage our goals.

- Near enemies: subtle concepts that feel so close to our aim or goal that we may not recognize them as enemies. Near enemies make us think we are achieving what we hope to achieve, but in reality, they hinder our growth.

- The importance of discernment: how we fool ourselves into thinking we're close when things are actually unraveling.

- Examples: A near enemy of compassion is pity. Connection's near enemy is control. For love, it's attachment. Mindfulness can appear dangerously similar to complacency.

- The Four Immeasurables or Divine Abodes: a set of four Buddhist spiritual practices focused on cultivating positive mental states. These practices include loving-kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy, and equanimity.

- What it means to rise up to compassion.

- How pity can be poisonous, and sameness can destroy

- Common humanity: what a novel idea!

- How the nuances of near enemies can lead to feeling wholehearted or brokenhearted.

- Equanimity vs indifference: #lifegoals

SPECIAL SHOUT OUTS of Notable Significance: Christopher Germer, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and Lecturer on Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, specializing in mindfulness and compassion-based psychotherapy. Dr. Germer and the infinitely inspiring Dr. Brené Brown motivated this curious dig into human behavior. Thank you, thank you!

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S3 Ep1: Spite: The Power to Motivate or Muck It All Up

The petty desire to hurt, annoy, or offend someone else - spite is uniquely human. While spite is often considered vengeful, malicious, and desperate, if harnessed correctly, spite can also be one hell of a motivator.

Join Jordan & J.T. as they explore the power of spite from social justice and spite architecture to karma and the influence of the revenge body. In this episode, discover:

- The distinction between healthy motivation and spiteful revenge

- Motivating functions of spite: overcoming doubt and achieving goals

- Whether spite is the path to petty or power

- Guilt by association and appealing to spite

- Spite as a form of selfish punishment (to cut off the nose to spite the face)

- Resentment, anger, and negative outcomes

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Jordan and J.T. wrap up Season 2 talking TRAVEL! Forty episodes of Let's Dig into That...so it's about damn time!

From a relaxing reset to extreme adventure, travel can heal and transform. Travel can also threaten your bank account, your relationship, and your intestines. Jordan and J.T. explore the unexpected benefits of stepping out of our routine and practicing flexibility on the go. Join the conversation to discover:

- Why people don't travel and why it's worth reconsidering

- What it means to prioritize intentional living

- The power of a perspective shift

- Benefits and challenges of leaping out of our comfort zone

- Sympathy and Empathy: what changes with lived experience

- Adventure advocates reframe stress in terms of growth and value

- How travel can redefine 'home'

- What the heart wants: familiar cabin, repeat road trip, beach, city, woods

- The importance of community; what we have in common

- Misconceptions, myths, and other excuses

- Safety, fear, and money: the fun stuff

- Exploring the takeaways of travel

Season 3 promises to be spicy, enticing, packed with vulnerability and inspiring interviews. Don't miss an over-share. Jordan and J.T. return mid-April. THANK YOU for the magnificent first forty!

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