Let's Dig into That

You went there; you said the True Thing about yourself - and the reaction is an "emotional cringe." Have you ever felt judged or criticized after a moment of vulnerability? If you've experienced "sharer's remorse" after opening up, rest assured you are not alone!

A vulnerability hangover is characterized by feelings of shame, guilt, regret, and fear that usually occur in the aftermath of taking an emotional risk, a temporary state of emotional self-doubt after being vulnerable with another person or group. (THANK YOU (again!) to Dr. Brené Brown for gifting us with the language to describe the discomfort.)

While J.T. thinks this condition might be reserved for Jordan's over-sharing tendencies, she feels her highly sensitive dude is susceptible to feeling the hangover of being judged for his authenticity.

In this episode, discover:

- What if my nature isn't on brand with society?

- How culture is responsible for our hangover

- Is judgment (or lack of acceptance) a reflection of another's personal shame?

- Vulnerability as a measure of courage (shoutout Dr. Brené!)

- What does it take to feel accepted? Validating our authenticity

- Hangover cures: self-compassion, seek support, channel of forgiveness, self-care

- Build gradual trust one step at a time

- The power of being YOU and ability to liberate others

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Who doesn't want to hear forever insights from newly-ish weds...on their second time around? Is forever a fairy tale ending or a voluntary life sentence? Join Jordan and J.T. as they flesh out what it means today to entertain the idea of forever.

In this episode, discover:

- Curiosity: why the long haul requires an open mind

- Forever, Never, Always...the danger of absolutes

- Threats to the F word: broken trust, the nonlinear nature of life

- Growth, healing, and change in the context of forever

- Recovery: where does forever meet one day at a time?

- Individuality: how to support the weird and wonderful

- Jordan advises working forever backwards and leaning into what you love today

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When you’re born with a call to serve, an activist activated by the personal obligation of “WE the people,” what happens when the exhilaration of resistance takes its toll? The exhaustion of living the fight for what’s right. Who helps the helpers?

Let's Dig into That is thrilled to welcome an arts-loving, wine-sipping vigilante of justice! Serving as an attorney, law professor, and dedicated philanthropist, this woman is a tireless advocate, a model of hard work and tenacious passion – and Jordan and J.T. are convinced she must be whipped. Renée J. Gentry, Esq, is here to walk us through reconnecting and recharging when the world lets us down.

Soak up some inspiration and discover:

- Tools and rituals to combat the negativity and the power of a positive mindset

- How to recharge and reclaim hope: where self-care meets service

- Resistance exhaustion and choral music: the energy of the group and the importance of rest

- Vicarious trauma and personal boundaries

- Connection and why sometimes it's best to call a five-year-old

- Motivators and needs: from playing your music loud to learning how to unplug

- Taking an oath as an attorney: is there a duality of self? The Citizen/Public Self and the Private Self?

- Reconnecting with our power: how can we give a shit and not give ourselves shingles?

About RJG:

Founding her own law firm in Washington, DC, in 2019, Renée J. Gentry, Esq is a leading expert on vaccine injury litigation in the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP) with over 20 years of experience. RJG is the Director of the Vaccine Injury Litigation Clinic at The George Washington University Law School and a Distinguished Professorial Lecturer in Law. In addition to the Clinic, she previously taught Disability Rights Law and the healthcare component of the Systemic Racism Reading Group.

This talented Love Ninja has served on the Board of Governors for the U.S. Court of Federal Claims Bar Association, is a founding member and President of the Vaccine Injured Petitioners Bar, and is a member of the American Association for Justice. She’s the 2020 recipient of the Court’s Golden Eagle Award. In March 2024, RJG testified before Congress in the House Committee on Government Oversight on the need for modernizing the VICP.

Ms. Gentry is a member of the Bars of the District of Columbia Bar, the US Court of Federal Claims, and the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. She has been featured in The New York Times, Bloomberg Law, Politico, National Geographic, Reuters, and Health Affairs, as well as on NBC News (Washington, D.C.). She also once had a pet duck named Jackson 5.

Join Jordan’s spiral as she explores her relationship with control, her compulsory need to provide (unwanted) help and (unsolicited) advice. The impulse to control seems rooted in Jordan’s self-proclaimed codependent tendencies, providing her with an illusion of safety and complicating the way she shows love. In a casual chat gone critical self-reflection mission, Jordan and J.T. discuss:

- The increased desire for control in times of uncertainty, control as a coping mechanism for chaos

- Costs of rigidity and loss of power

- Disruptions, distractions, and trusting the process: the micro-growth of surrendering control

- Allowing life to unfold (easier said than done): practicing flexibility with expectations, not values

- Why surrendering to the experience is only possible with acceptance

- The quiet search for peace Jordan continues to postpone

- Diggable Reminder: QUIT gaslighting yourself!

Next on Jordan and J.T.’s reading list:

Mel Robbins, The Let Them Theory (Hay House LLC, 2024)

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Thanks to YOU, the Love Ninja Listeners, it was brought to Jordan and J.T.'s attention that in all their talk of sex and intimacy, they did not use the word romance - not even once.

In our busy culture of swiping and with the surge of the single and powerful, is romance on anyone's mind? Join the conversation as Jordan and J.T. explore:

- What is romance? Is it a need, a want, a dated pursuit?

- The Rom-Com roadmap that leads straight to a restraining order.

- J.T. describes the balance between the mystery of romance and the unpredictability of surprise.

- Does an act of romance imply expectation and/or reciprocation?

- False romance, love bombs, and the stories we are told.

- How success in romance begins with listening.

- Why Jordan and J.T. feel it is time to start asking for what we want.

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A good night’s rest – a dream we all chase. The importance of sleep is in no realm revolutionary. From brain health and metabolism to regulating hormones, mood, and body temperature, the work we do in bed matters. While J.T. cherishes the intimacy of sharing one mattress, the onset of illness has Jordan camping out in the guest room. By night six, J.T. fears she’s getting too comfortable. Jordan assures him he isn’t far off. Join the conversation to discover:

- Bedtime rituals and bad habits

- How going to bed angry can lead to waking up kind

- Anxiety: need we say more?

- Success tales of marriage-altering sleep studies

- Sleep deprivation and functionality: Jordan’s occasional titty baby status

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Does putting sex on the schedule reduce satisfaction? Jordan argues that intentionality and anticipation are reason enough to jump on the dirty date night wagon. J.T. shares his experience with a calendar that unfortunately led to...crickets.

While the word schedule might not have the best connotation, the planning and prioritizing of intimacy might be transformative for a relationship. What are the odds that you both are in the mood at the same time? Free from distraction and regrettable bloating?? If you and your partner share a consistent connection, can you still expect the same pressure around birthdays, holidays, anniversaries? We plan for vacations and life aspirations, so why not sex?

Listen to discover how to approach your partner if you’re feeling disconnected, how talk and touch can get you back on track, and ways to embrace the awkward. Let this episode be an inspiration for the imagination.

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CASSIE IS BACK, and it is time to talk about the WINS! Let's dig into the good good. If you missed Part 1, do yourself a favor; this heroic journey is not to be missed.

Following up on Cassie's devastating exit from a high-control church community and experience in therapy while earning a degree in Design, in this episode, discover:

- the self-love rituals and practices that helped Cassie to reconnect

- how to shine a light on what makes you feel authentic

- positive self-talk, a cozy environment, and the power of checking in

- shout out to mental health and therapy tools for healing

- Cassie's evolving relationship with God

- the importance of surrounding yourself with your people

- the healing power of a pet pig (Hip Hip Hooray - Cheers to Henny the Hog!)

- REMINDER: it is a choice to get bitter or better

More on Cassie: Founder of the Grand Mesa Business Guild and Program Manager at Delta Innovation Workspace, Cassie operates two sensational Creator spaces packed with resources and a network of talent and services. Cassie is the accountability guru who motivates and supports small business owners, fosters ideas, and generates actionable plans to get your goals off the ground. A proud Colorado native, Cassie is an avid photographer, artist, and unparalleled friend. She likes to paint, journal, two-step, and cuddle with her pet pig, Hennessy.

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Cassie (FREAKING) Fortman is here! Buckle up, beautiful friends. Season 2 opens with a 2-Part conversation that takes CONNECTION to the next level.

J.T. and Jordan are joined by Cassie, the Guiding Connector, a dynamic designer and Founder of the Grand Mesa Business Guild, to discuss her heroic rounds of reinvention. Cassie bravely shares her unthinkable journey from indoctrination to freedom and healing from religious trauma.

At the age of 27, Cassie celebrated her first birthday in nearly a decade. Following a divorce that, within her church family and community, ended her very existence (aka she died), Cassie was faced with rebuilding her entire network of support and connection, down to uncovering her most pure, authentic self. This magnetizing, resilient human being reminds us of our inherent power, how simple it is to take better care of ourselves, and why we all have the choice to get bitter or better.

In Part 1, discover:

- Why strong women are often drawn to religious extremism

- The threat of a single, independent (thinking) woman and the appointment of Cassie's second husband

- The five months to feign grief between a divorce and marrying a stranger

- The public shaming of being disfellowshipped or shunned by the church

- Cassie's love of design and (the once forbidden) journey through higher education

- How COVID robbed Cassie's graduation but cued another reinvention

***Join us for PART 2, when Cassie shares her WINS and the details of her self-care transformation.

More on Cassie: Founder of the Grand Mesa Business Guild and Program Manager at Delta Innovation Workspace, Cassie operates two sensational Creator spaces packed with resources and a network of talent and services. Motivating and supporting small business owners, fostering ideas, and generating actionable plans, Cassie is the accountability guru to get your goals off the ground. A proud Colorado native, Cassie is an avid photographer, artist, and unparalleled friend. She likes to paint, journal, two-step, and cuddle with her pet pig, Hennessy.

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SEASON 1 FINALE! Jordan and J.T. will return on January 15, 2025 with MORE saucy secrets, even BETTER production, and a lineup of AWESOME guests.

At the close of 2024, we can recount our missteps and resolve to do better. OR we can reflect on the challenges we overcame, the moments of pride, and set our intention for opportunities in the new year. A new calendar is permission to start fresh. Whether you have a list of personal improvements laminated on the fridge or choose to focus on one big dream for the year, join the conversation to discover:

• Resolutions...friend or foe?
• Let go of what doesn't serve you - easier said than done
• The power of the mini-adventure
• Misogi: a Japanese ritual that has evolved into a personal development approach for gaining confidence and courage
• Visualizing the future and setting measurable goals
• The importance of getting out of our comfort zone

CHEERS to a happy, healthy, and creative 2025! Be brave, beautiful friends.

Season 2 airs 1/15/2025.

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