You hear about them, whenever wine is discussed, those French Oak Barrels. But what does it all really mean? Mike has an in-depth chat with Gerhard Ziemer, who knows a LOT about barrels! They talk about other things, too, and sip some delicious wines. But it's one of the geekiest episodes EVER!! So enjoy it.

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Wines discussed this episode:

2023 Grosgrain Vineyards Albariño, Philips Vineyard, Walla Walla Valley

2021 Field Recordings Cabernet Sauvignon, The Armory Vineyard, Paso Robles

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