Today Mac DeMarco releases an album of instrumentals called Five Easy Hot Dogs. How good is it? Well, it's an instrumental album called Five Easy Hot Dogs — you do the math. At the very least, the record was a good excuse to talk about the career and legacy of one of modern indie's most influential artists (32:47). Steve Hyden is a fan though he considers himself more of a "liker" than a "lover" of his music. Ian Cohen, however, has been a vocal critic. What are Ian's beefs? Was Steve able to talk him into re-considering Mac?

The opening banter segment covers two of the biggest indie album announcements of the week — Boygenius' The Record (12:28) and The National's First Two Pages of Frankenstein (:26). What's up with that weird National album cover? Why is the Boygenius album cover already meme-able? Eventually, Steve and Ian also get around to talking about the music.

In Recommendation Corner (54:43), Ian stumps for an actual book! It's Status And Culture by W. David Marx, which explains how the titular subjects are shaped and formulated. As for me, I shouted out Mercy by octogenarian musical legend John Cale, which includes cameos by Weyes Blood, Animal Collective, and Sylvan Esso.

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