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Emily Sander talks with Lindsay McCleary about her journey from project management to Chief of Staff roles in both the private sector at Binc and the public sector for the City of Charlotte. Lindsay McCleary shares how she created her own job description, built trust with leaders, and tackled challenges like internal communication and supporting a fast-growing city. She offers practical advice for Chiefs of Staff, like moving from note-taker to strategic leader and building strong relationships with principals.
Link Mentioned:
Connect with Lindsay McCleary on LinkedIn
Get in touch with Emily:
Want to chat with Emily? Book a quick clarity call here.
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Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Knowledge management is explained as making sure important information flows up, down, and across an organization, using direct examples like leadership decisions being shared with teams, or customer feedback reaching the right people. The episode covers how the Chief of Staff can spot communication breakdowns and keep everyone in the loop, including situations where leaders fail to pass on updates or overreact to minor issues. Tips are offered for testing if messages actually reach people and are understood as intended.
Get in touch with Emily:
Want help improving communication flow across your organization? Book a clarity call w/ Emily here.
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Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:25 Why Knowledge Management
01:45 Top Down Communication
02:37 Bottom Up Feedback Loops
03:54 Cross Org Information Flow
06:11 Leadership Message Breakdowns
08:09 Accuracy Checks Upward
09:39 Transparency Sharing Philosophy
13:48 Build Systems Stress Test Wrap
Savio P. Clemente, a two-time cancer survivor, shares how his experiences shaped his adaptive resilience leadership framework and gives practical advice for avoiding burnout and decision fatigue. The discussion covers high-pressure healthcare leadership, the importance of paying attention to your body, and why intentional silence and rest matter for Chief of Staff roles. Clemente also explains his "Aloha reboot" reset method and talks about his interviews with CEOs and CMOs on post-crisis leadership.
Links Mentioned:
Savio P. Clemente’s Website
[TEDx talk and book by Savio P. Clemente] (available via his website)
Savio P. Clemente’s Substack
Savio P. Clemente on social media:
Instagram
Tiktok
Twitter
LinkedIn
Get in touch with Emily:
Want to chat with Emily? Book a quick clarity call here.
Free Leadership Resources
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Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
01:09 Reconnecting and Lessons on Failure
04:06 Cancer Survival and Body Awareness
07:00 Decision Fatigue Under Pressure
16:41 Post Crisis Recalibration and Aloha Reboot
18:28 Reframe and Aloha Method
23:21 Metacognition and Identity Traps
24:29 Intentional Silence Practice
33:36 Post Crisis Leadership Wrap
This episode shares practical ways to handle uncertain times at work by focusing on the tasks that need to get done no matter what. Emily Sander gives real examples, like mapping and merging data systems during a leadership shakeup, a Chief of Staff streamlining VP workflows after an acquisition, and helping two clashing teams start working better together while waiting for a new role to be filled. The main advice: find useful tasks that must happen anyway to keep progress moving and give teams direction.
Get in touch with Emily:
Need help finding strategic priorities during uncertain times? Book a clarity call w/ Emily here.
Free Leadership Resources
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Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:25 Interim Period Question
00:39 Do What Matters Anyway
01:12 Example One Data Integration
02:55 Testing and Iterating Fast
03:21 Example Two Post Acquisition Chaos
04:43 Reorg Focus for VPs
06:43 Example Three Awkward Promotion Limbo
07:48 Fixing Two Teams Conflict
12:07 Wrap Up Keep Momentum
Andrea Cilliers shares her journey from joining the Department of Defense through a disability internship to becoming Chief of Staff for the U.S. Special Advisor on International Disability Rights. She talks about working on diversity and inclusion at the State Department, influencing global policy, and meeting leaders like Pope Francis. The episode covers how she built relationships across government, advocated for disability rights, and offers advice on leadership and hiring people with disabilities.
Link Mentioned:
Job Accommodation Network
Get in touch with Emily:
Want to chat with Emily? Book a quick clarity call here.
Free Leadership Resources
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Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:58 Andrea Career Origins
02:54 State Department Explained
06:33 EEO Work at State
08:52 Serendipity to Chief of Staff
11:12 Vatican and G7 Diplomacy
14:57 Inside Vatican Meetings
21:46 Chief of Staff Playbook
34:22 Blinken Team Lessons
49:29 Advice and Disability Inclusion
The episode breaks down how skill-based assessments can help make better hiring decisions, whether you’re hiring for an entry-level analyst, a digital marketing specialist, or a software engineer. Emily Sander shares real-life examples like using SEO quizzes, press release writing tasks, and real client scenarios to test candidates’ technical abilities. The advice is to create assessments that match the actual job and adjust them for the level of the role, especially if you’re a Chief of Staff leading the process.
Get in touch with Emily:
Want help designing skill-based hiring assessments? Book a clarity call w/ Emily here.
Free Leadership Resources
Website
Newsletter
Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:25 Why Skill Assessments Matter
01:04 Hiring as Chief of Staff
01:31 Two Assessment Principles
02:45 Digital Marketing Hiring Story
04:12 Quizzes Plus Real Scenarios
07:02 Comms Tests and AI Concerns
08:41 Engineering Whiteboard Pressure
10:40 Assessing Senior Leaders
14:00 Be Selective and Trust Process
Emily Sander talks with Keosha Lucas about whether the Chief of Staff role is a career destination or a stepping stone. Keosha shares her path from Lyft, where she did Chief of Staff work under different titles, to startups and eventually becoming a Senior Vice President and co-founding a fintech company. She gives practical advice on gaining experience, handling imposter syndrome, and how Chief of Staff skills prepared her to run a business.
Get in touch with Emily:
Want to chat with Emily? Book a quick clarity call here.
Free Leadership Resources
Website
Newsletter
Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:28 Meet Keosha Lucas
02:05 Doing CoS Work Without Title
06:05 Growing Pains and Processes
08:57 Discovering the CoS Title
16:04 Confidence and Imposter Syndrome
19:12 Career Arc to SVP and Founder
25:46 CoS as Destination and Advice
The episode looks at jargon and acronyms in the workplace, using examples like ARR (annual rate of return) and CPA (cost per acquisition or certified public accountant), and talks about ways to learn or clarify business lingo. It emphasizes that asking questions doesn’t make you look stupid and highlights the Chief of Staff’s role in creating a shared language across teams, especially during mergers or integrations. Tips include using tools like Google or ChatGPT, paying attention to context, and not overcomplicating things with unnecessary jargon.
Get in touch with Emily:
Confused by business jargon? Book a clarity call w/ Emily here.
Free Leadership Resources
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Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:25 The Acronym Anxiety
01:34 Step Back and Normalize Jargon
04:05 Learn by Context and Quick Lookups
06:45 Ask Anyway You're Not Dumb
09:45 Why Clarifying Helps Everyone
12:12 Chief of Staff Shared Language
17:38 Communicate Clearly Avoid Buzzwords
21:47 Key Takeaways and Wrap Up
Emily Sander talks with Maren Perry, founder and CEO of Arden Coaching, about what HR really does beyond paperwork, why leadership development should start early, and the habits of high-performing teams. They cover tips for giving and receiving feedback, how emotional intelligence works in day-to-day situations, and how small changes - like starting meetings on time - can improve team culture. Maren Perry also explains Arden Coaching’s assessment tools and approaches for building better leaders at all stages of their careers.
Links Mentioned:
Arden Coaching website
Free assessment (organizational quiz)
Get in touch with Emily:
Want to chat with Emily? Book a quick clarity call here.
Free Leadership Resources
Website
Newsletter
Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:59 Why Arden Coaching
04:20 Develop Leaders Earlier
08:24 Feedback and EQ Skills
17:41 Align With The Leader
20:52 Small Shifts Big Impact
22:04 Common Team Breakdowns
32:59 Assessment Services And Wrap
The conversation focuses on practical ways a Chief of Staff can work with peers across departments, like finding small ways to make someone’s workflow easier or kicking off cross-team projects such as company-wide KPI dashboards and revamped performance reviews. Real examples include removing unnecessary steps from daily processes, automating Salesforce reports, and even simple gestures like ordering a camera cover for a colleague’s laptop. The episode also covers building trust through these actions and handling resistance from team members.
Get in touch with Emily:
Need help improving cross-team collaboration? Book a clarity call w/ Emily here.
Free Leadership Resources
Website
Newsletter
Who Am I?
If we haven’t met before - Hi👋 I’m Emily, Chief of Staff turned Executive Leadership Coach. After a thrilling ride up the corporate ladder, I’m focusing on what I love - working with people to realize their professional and personal goals. Through my videos here on this channel, books, podcast guest spots, and newsletter, I share new ideas and practical and tactical tools to help you be more productive and build the career and life you want.
Time Stamps:
00:25 Listener Question Setup
01:31 Small Wins Build Trust
02:00 Workflow Fixes and Shortcuts
03:44 A Tiny Gesture Example
05:54 KPI Dashboards and Automation
08:58 Handling Peer Resistance
10:27 Time and Political Capital
16:58 Wrap Up and Next Steps
From the publisher's feed
Leadership is messy. Most advice isn't built for the reality of competing priorities, difficult stakeholders, limited time, and imperfect information.
Leveraging Leadership is a…
Hosted by Emily Sander, former Chief of Staff and executive advisor, each episode delivers real-world lessons, practical frameworks, and candid conversations with leaders across business and beyond.
Topics include executive communication, leadership presence, decision-making, delegation, organizational influence, operating rhythms, team effectiveness, and the often-unspoken challenges leaders face behind the scenes.
If you're looking for thoughtful conversations, practical takeaways, and leadership advice you can actually use on Monday morning, you're in the right place.

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