AUG 1, 2026 WPG Radio segment featuring Seth Grossman:

1. Organization & Book Promotion

Liberty and Prosperity: Seth Grossman promotes his organization, Liberty and Prosperity, highlighting its website (libertyandprosperity.com), free email updates, tax-deductible donations, and weekly meetings at Sal's Coal Fired Pizza in Somers Point on Saturday mornings.

The 1676 Project: He plug his book, The 1676 Project: How New Jersey Shaped America, which is available in physical copy (for $20–$25) and on Kindle (for $10). He encourages readers to use the book to refute online "lies" about American history.

Native American & Smallpox History: Grossman references a point in his book regarding Native Americans and smallpox during Quaker, Swedish, and Finnish settlements, arguing against claims of deliberate infection.

2. Commentary on Dr. Anthony Fauci & COVID-19

Historical Criticism (HIV/AIDS): Grossman criticizes Dr. Anthony Fauci's historical record, alleging that during the 1980s AIDS epidemic, Fauci suppressed scientific observations regarding the spread of HIV to protect bathhouse owners, delaying public warnings.

COVID-19 Pandemic Response: He asserts that current criticisms regarding Fauci and the origins of COVID-19 (mentioning the Wuhan Institute of Virology) were already known in 2020.

Critique of Donald Trump: He notes that former President Trump initially embraced Fauci and gave him a platform, attributing this to Trump's impulsive nature.

3. Border Security & Events in Spain

Ceuta Incident: Grossman details a recent migration event where tens of thousands of young Moroccan men entered the Spanish territory of Ceuta via water.

Political Context: He blames Spain's left-wing socialist leadership for expanding citizenship to undocumented migrants, arguing that open borders lead to societal collapse.

Impact on U.S. Politics: He argues that these global events highlight the necessity of border enforcement and believes this issue will boost Donald Trump and Congressional Republicans politically.

4. Stockton University Controversy

Open Letter from Donor: Grossman discusses an open letter written by philanthropist and multi-millionaire John F. Scarpa to the president of Stockton University. Scarpa, who previously pledged $8 million to the university, expressed anger over content on the Holocaust Center's official website regarding Israel.

Criticism of University Leadership: Grossman claims the Holocaust Center at Stockton has been run for a decade by a "woke leftist" (Raz Segal) teaching a distorted history of the Holocaust.

Call for Change: He argues that donors and parents should question funding higher education institutions that promote anti-American or anti-Israel views.

WOND radio. 7.24.26 Brian Fitzherbert.

Our Muslim "Friends", not Israel, are giving Trump and our military bad advice on Iran.

NJ Motor Vehicles has been illegally registering non-citizens to vote for years.  Feds can easily dig out the truth by questioning the 6,000 non-citizens who registered, and the 400 who voted.

Trump already stopped most non-citizens from voting with his mass deportations. Very view non-citizens will now take the chance of voting illegally.

 Republicans are losing because of legal "Vote Harvesting", not illegal cheating.  We need to be honest. Do we really want people who are too drugged up, drunk, sick or lazy to vote in person (or get a doctor's note for an absentee ballot) to vote in large numbers?

Return to Single-Day In-person Voting: Seth Grossman's "1676 Project" history book explains why William Penn and the Quakers who established West New Jersey insisted on in-person secret ballots in 1676!

Government is making everything too expensive!  Housing, health care and college got much more expensive? Airline tickets, TV's, cell phones and taxis (ubers) got much cheaper?  Every time government decides to make something "affordable", it gets a lot more expensive!

Republicans can win elections if they get government out of health care, housing, college, and public transportation, and make them affordable again.  

CORRECTED AND ABRIDGED TRANSCRIPT:

SETH GROSSMAN: Who is giving Trump all of this bad advice about Iran?  I know your Tucker Carlsons are blaming Israel. However, it seems clear to me that Israel is on the sidelines. 

Above image: Our  "friend" and "ally" Saudi Arabia has the same flag as Hamas. They both depict a sword with these words written above it: "There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah."

Our Muslim "allies", Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar seem to have the most influence on Trump and our military.  They have their own Islamic agenda, and they are using us to promote it. All four of them believe in jihad. All four of them believe that the whole world must submit to Islam, and that all nations that reject Islam, including the United States, are their enemies. They are afraid of the Iranian regime. However, they are even more afraid of replacing it with a strong, prosperous, democratic and secular Iran!

They are pretending to be our friends because we are useful to them right now. They are using us to protect them from the Iranians.  Of course, the Iranians are also Muslims, but they are a different kind of Muslims. They are part of a cult called 12th Imam Shiah Muslims, or Twelvers. These Shia Muslims, like all Muslims, believe it is their duty to make the whole world submit to Islam. However, these Shia 12th Imam Muslims believe that their 12th Imam will do it.

The Shias who now run Iran believe that their leader is the Mahdi, the 12th Imam.  However, he has been hiding for the past 1,300 years. They want to bring him out of hiding so he can then rule the world and make the whole world Muslim.  To bring him out of hiding, they need a gigantic war to destroy Israel, the Little Satan, and the United States, the Great Satan.

The Muslims who run Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Pakistan agree that Muslims have a duty to take over the world.  However, they think they should be running everything with their "Caliphate" when that happens. They don't want to deal with a "Mahdi" or 12th Imam from Iran!

Our so-called Muslim friends, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Pakistan are using us to make Iran weak. However, they do NOT want a free, prosperous, democratic and non-Muslim Iran that is a friend of Israel and the United States.

Israel wants what is also good for the United States. Israel also wants to live next to a free, prosperous, democratic Christian Lebanon. It wants a free, prosperous, democratic non-Islamic Kurdish nation. But this is NOT what Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey, or Saudi Arabia. want.

If Israel were influencing Trump, we would be helping the Kurds and our friends in Iran to overthrow their crazy regime.  This was Israel's plan. But we didn't listen to Israel. We instead listened to Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey and Saudia Arabia. - And so we betrayed the Kurds, again.  And we also betrayed our best friends in Iran. We allowed 30,000 to 40,000 of them to be killed.  This is not the first times Americans did that. We betrayed the Kurds many times before.  George Bush betrayed our friends in Iraq before.  That is why America doesn't have a lot of friends in the Middle East today.

Instead, we only have fake friends like Pakistan. Remember that it was Pakistan that hid Osama bin Laden and kept him safe for fifteen years. - It was, Saudi Arabia who did the oil - blockade against us. And it is Saudi Arabia and Qatar that are spending hundreds of millions of dollars to fund mosques and radical imams all over America, including Atlantic City. It was a Saudi air force cadet that murdered our navy air cadets at Pensacola a few years ago.  But now Trump wants to build nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia. And he wants Turkey to have our most modern stealth fighters.

Above Image: NJ Motor Vehicle Commission office at the Shore Mall in Egg Harbor Township.

NJ Governor Mikie Sherrill: "New Jersey Motor Vehicles registered at least 6,000 non-citizens to vote two years ago, and that at least 400 of them voted!"

Mikie Sherrill said this was because of a computer glitch. However, we know it is more than that. I mentioned on this show many times that this has been going on at the Motor Vehicles office at the Shore Mall in Egg Harbor Township for years. People who worked there told us that foreign students working in Atlantic City for the summer were told to fill out voter registration forms. And many of them were Irish, and they said, "We're not citizens, we're just working here for the summer. We can't vote in your elections!"   But they were told to register to vote anyway.

It is very easy for federal agents to dig out the truth.  We know state officials are not going to do anything. We are a confederate, sanctuary state that will never enforce laws against illegal immigrants.  However, it would be very easy for federal agents to identify and question those 400 noncitizens who voted, and the 6,000 non-citizens who registered to vote. By doing that, they all committed well documented crimes. And I do not think they would risk deportation to lie, and cover up for a handful of crooked Democdrats.

JOHN DEMASI:  It is certainly a complicated problem, and, - you were right. You you mentioned it several - times, - and I was skeptical about it, but - you turned out to be right. It's and - it's a real problem,

SETH GROSSMAN:  Yes. Democrats want illegals to vote, because most of them vote for Democrats. But Republicans should not get too excited about this. Thanks to Trump's mass deportations, very, very few non-citizens are going to be voting.  I can't imagine any illegal alien, or any legal foreigner with a green card making himself or herself a target by casting one illegal vote.

Legal vote harvesting, not illegal ballot stuffing is the main reason Republicans are losing so many elections. Now, I understand why so - many Republicans - believe - that every election is rigged and that there's nothing we can do to win. - I mean, they look at the 2020 election. At 10 pm, Trump is winning by a few hundred thousand votes in Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania. - And then suddenly in the middle of the - night, - all these paper ballots, - get delivered and 99% - of them go for the Democrats, - and Trump is losing.

And then we saw the same thing - happened this spring with the mayor of Los Angeles.  On election night, you had Spencer Pratt, the - Republican. He's a few 100,000 votes ahead in - the number two position - ready to, win the election in the runoff. - But then a few days later, he ends - up losing to Nisia - Rahman, a little known radical leftist. - So so what happened? - Well, right away, - in in both situation, many - Republicans said, well, this is a stolen - election. Look at these bellwether election districts. They - they always predict every election, and now this - this election is completely off. - Or they'll say something like, - look at all the last-minute ballots. - They came in late. They were old 99% - for the Democrat. This is proof of cheating. - It's statistically not possible. 

But when you have a closer look, you can see how this can be explained by legal ballot harvesting. Start by asking yourself, if this was cheating and ballot stuffing, how did the Democrats do it?

Back in 2020, some people said, well, the voting machines were rigged. Somebody in China - or Venezuela - hacked the voting machines. They used these chips or other electronic devices to change the numbers. - But the problem is that even after five years, there's still absolutely no evidence of that. - And the people who said that publicly all - got sued. - They were unable to come up with any - evidence to back up their claim, and they- lost a lot of money. - So it's not  hacking the voting machines. 

 And then some people said, well the Democrats stuffed the ballot boxes with illegal voters!  So how do you stuff a ballot box with fake votes? You have to have with secret workshops or factories somewhere that that print up thousands of fake ballots. And then you have to have dozens, or hundreds of people filling them out by hand, and then you have to put them on trucks, and you sneak them into where they are counting the ballots.  When you go into the details, you see that this claim is totally ridiculous. There is absolutely no evidence of any kind to support this.

And remember, every ballot has documents tying it to a real person.  There are voter registration records with the names of real people and real addresses. And so far, after five years of allegations, and complaints,...

7.17.26 Brian Fitzherbert WOND Radio

Seth Grossman of Liberty and Prosperity, WPG Radio. July 18, 2026.

 4-minute introductory video to Grossman's book, The 1676 Project, are available on their website.

Elections and Voting: Addressing recent remarks by Donald Trump, Grossman noted that non-citizen voting is currently a minimized issue due to active deportations of lawbreakers. Regarding election interference and voter data security, he emphasized that public records make preventing data access difficult. He advocates for returning to a single election day and re-implementing New Jersey’s vintage mechanical voting machines to eliminate electronic hacking vulnerabilities.

Voter Harvesting vs. Fraud: Grossman clarified that post-election shifts often stem from legal "voter harvesting" rather than fraud. Community organizations leverage government-funded assistance programs to secure mail-in votes from reliant, otherwise non-voting demographics.

Economic Dependencies & Technology: He expressed concerns over heavy societal reliance on screens and TikTok, advocating instead for critical thinking and reading. He also criticized New Jersey's business environment, noting that state websites focus heavily on structural certifications for government contracts rather than clarifying simple tax compliance.

Public Spending Disparities: Grossman questioned the logic of spending public funds on underutilized convention centers, pointing out that successful out-of-state centers are privately run. He argued these funds should instead be diverted to critical public infrastructure, such as standard jails, juvenile facilities, and mental health institutions.

Anyway, about Trump's - speech, I I thought it was interesting. - His top points he brought up of, for - example, non citizen voting. Well, the best way - to stop non citizens from voting is to - deport illegals - and to - and if - anyone who's a non citizen here with a - green card breaks the law - revoke their green card and deport them and - basically that's what Trump has been doing for - the past year - and, - really non citizen voting, - is really not a big problem right now - because of that. Because even though some non - citizens, - may be on the books, - now that they see what is happening, - to people who who get a - traffic ticket or a drug charge or anything, - they're getting deported. So - I think that's pretty much under control. - When - President Trump talked about the interference in election, - About China getting the names of our voters - and then getting information to them to influence - their vote. - You know, sadly whether the Chinese or anyone - else - gets that voter information, we're an open society - and there's nothing you could do, - to get people from getting public records, public - information - and using them to influence them, people. - So China has been doing that - but the - probably even bigger than China, Qatar Q A - T A R. - That's basically a Muslim Brotherhood country and they've - pumped $62,000,000,000 - into our colleges and high schools - during the past thirty years. The influence, - you know how our students - feel and how they - vote. So there's really no substitute - for - educating our children. You know getting them off - TikTok, - having them read books, - you know ditch the the screens, - learn critical - how to tell a lie from the truth - by by analyzing it and so - you know that's not an easy thing to - do but we have to focus on it - and I think my sixteen seventy six book - points that out. You know there's you just - have to read - the thing that made civilization - was when the cavemen used to swap stories - around the campfire - and you can't you know learn a lifetime - of experience - of somebody and you know you actually can't - learn everything you need to know in a - lifetime. - You need hundreds and thousands of years of - collective wisdom - to live in a normal - comfortable civilized society and that means reading books - and what's happening if people stop reading books - and they just you know go by what - they see on tick tock or on TV - we're right back to the caveman days of - swapping stories around a campfire - so we have to you know teach our - children how to read. We have to read. - We have to get back to those Bible - values. We have to go back to the - golden rule doing to others - as you would want others to do into - you. - You can't if there's a failure in your - life we got to learn from Ben Franklin - learn a skill work with other people - save your money - form partnerships - get married do these things to achieve success - for yourself - instead of being jealous at somebody else and - wanting the government to take something from somebody - else and give it to you now we - have to give it to you. Now we - have to use logic and reason again so, - yeah it's easy to complain about Chinese influencer - or or Qatar in influence or this influence - or that influence but if people are educated - and have principles and moral standards and think - for - identify - the fake stuff and sort it out, and, - then we can move forward. - You know, - you said a lot of things there and - I don't know how you get the young - people off TikTok. - It starts right there, you know. - And you're right. You know, we gotta read - more, - We gotta do more thinking. - And - the, - the the these - TikTok and all these things don't encourage thinking. - Just, you know, - clickbait and all that stuff. So, yeah, it's - it's it's a very good point. - And and it's a painful thing and I - was there upfront and personal because I I - spent two weeks on vacation, - you know, with my daughter, son-in-law, and grandkids. - And it is very, very tempting. You wanna - enjoy dinner, you wanna talk. - Kids are getting are distracted - they're bored they're running around it's very easy - to take that cell phone put a game - on it and stick it in front of - the kid that's a great pacifier for twenty - minutes - But the long term damage is well documented - and you just have to resist it. You - just have to say, well, you know, almost - like our parents. Our parents didn't go out - to eat, you know, every - night. Then you go out to eat every - week was a important thing you know meals - at home - but the discipline of getting kids that if - they're bored they they can't just feel - that I just pick up a cell phone - pick up a screen you know pick up - an iPad - and have somebody entertain me all the time - you know that's that's something - that it because if we do that - then yeah if people rely on the screen - for everything - it's very easy to influence them to to - do some very bad things, not just the - politics. So so Trump touched on that, but - I think we have to take it the - rest of the way and learn the the - long term, - problems. - I agree. I agree. Yeah. That definitely. I - agree. I mean, Trump Trump was right about - the, we need a voter ID that would - cut down on on fraud. - The the idea of being able to hack - voting machines. - To me, who's been in politics my entire - life, - it's it absolutely baffles me - why when we in New Jersey - had these machines, these voting machines called Schoop - mechanical voting machines. - We had those voting machines in New Jersey - since 1890. - They were mechanical not electronic. - You know, there was a counter, - you opened up the counter at it when - the polls close at 08:00 at night. Everyone - knew how they worked. If the counter didn't - work, there was a backup register tape that - recorded every vote and suddenly in the 1890s - or rather in the 1990s and you know - just you know thirty years ago we got - rid of them all and got this complicated - computer stuff that we have now - and it was done when we had Republican - governor, Christie Todd Whitman, - Republican - state senate, Republican legislator. We had Bill Gormley, - all those Republicans and they got rid of - those mechanical voting machines. It would be so - easy to just get them back because we - know they worked for a hundred years. - But that, you know, maybe someone who - one of the county officials could could talk - about - why that happened and why we can't go - back to it. - Well well, we have a lot of questions - for them. That that that'll be another one. - But but by the way, the biggest, - problem that is causing Republicans to lose, - and I know I've talked about this a - lot, - and and that's the legal vote harvesting. - I think I'm an expert on elections because - my first election when I was like 26 - years old, I lost by three votes. - And then I got elected - as a county commissioner - by one vote. - And I saw how it works and and - the real problem - is is not, you know, illegal votes are - always a problem and Democrats have always - had an advantage - in voter theft because Democrats believe government is - important. - So so they wanna win the election so - they could get free stuff from the government. - It comes naturally to them. But the biggest - problem is not the illegal votes, it's the - legal votes. - And if you look at the people, whenever - you see a Republican is ahead on election - night - and then you'll see in the next two - or three days these paper ballots come in, - and you know with and and they go - 90% for the Democrats, 98% - for the Democrats. - And and it's easy to think that there's - fraud going on, but what is really happening - is voting voter harvesters. - You got these, community organizers. - They're in these organizations - that are funded by the government. - They give out three electric bill vouchers. Vouchers. - You know, free food vouchers, - free this, free that, - free housing vouchers. - And they get a whole class of people - who are dependent on them. - And then before the election, they just go - around. You know, the people who are on - their drug program, their alcohol program, their, you - know, psychiatric - program, mental health,...

Brian Fitzherbert, president of Liberty and Prosperity, joins Anne Baker on WOND radio for 'Fitzherbert Friday'.

Brian talks with Anne about the Iran war options dilemma for President Trump with the midterm elections looming, 'never Trumper RINO's, and the astronomical cost increases on housing, food, and healthcare to the taxpayers for illegal immigrants.

"Brian Fitzherbert, president of Liberty an Prosperiy, joins Anne Baker on WOND radio fr 'Fitzherbert Friday'.. Today, Brian talks to Anne about the WNBA star Cailin Clark and her being left off the league's 30th Anniversary promotional poster, as well as the way she's been treated, The current state of the US/Iran conflict, and then segue's into talking about China and Russia bearing witness to America's military might and not wanting anything to do wit it."

Summary of the key points, WPG Radio:

Temporary Protected Status (TPS): Brian notes that TPS for Syrians and Haitians was meant to be temporary, yet individuals from these groups have been in the U.S. since 2012 and 2010, respectively.

Asylum Regulations: Referring to a Supreme Court analogy, Brian explains that an individual at the door is not inside the house; similarly, border agents can legally turn away asylum seekers at the border. He questions why seekers pass through multiple countries without requesting asylum before reaching the U.S.

Assimilation and Law Enforcement: Brian argues that the U.S. is a nation of settlers who established a culture based on assimilation, including learning the language and laws. He believes opposing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) blurs the line between legal and illegal immigration, asserting that undocumented individuals are consistently breaking the law.

Future Automation: Brian predicts that in 10 to 15 years, advanced robots (like Tesla's Optimus) will perform household chores and labor intensive jobs, which he claims will eliminate the demand for illegal immigrant labor in sectors like agriculture and hospitality.

Economic Impact on New Jersey: Brian cites a report indicating that New Jersey spends close to $8 billion annually supporting an estimated 1 million undocumented immigrants. He argues this drives up local costs for everyone, leading to higher healthcare premiums, overcrowded classrooms requiring expensive ESL teachers, increased car insurance rates, and higher housing costs due to increased demand.

Brian Fitzherbert, president of Liberty and Prosperity, joins Anne Baker on WOND radio for 'Fitzherbert Friday'.  Today, Brian and Anne talk about America's military and technological superiority, the US/Iran MOU, president Trump's track record of success with the border, illegal immigration, fraud, waste and abuse.

They also take a call from listener Linda asking about General Milley during Trump's first term undermining the president with China.

Atlantic County Democrat candidate attacks Republican County Clerk for attending Liberty and Prosperity meetings!

Above Image: Atlantic County Clerk Joe Giralo.

Lisa Bender, Democratic Party candidate for Atlantic County Clerk first attacked Seth Grossman, executive director for Liberty and Prosperity. She noted that both he and Liberty and Prosperity oppose current voting laws that mandate a 45 day "harvest season" of "mail-in" and "messenger" ballots instead of one in-person Election Day.  She falsely accused them of claiming that people who use paper ballots are "drunk, under the influence of drugs or dependent on 'free stuff' from community organizers." She then attacked Giralo for attending Liberty and Prosperity meetings and being an "ally" of Grossman and the Liberty and Prosperity organization.

Both Seth Grossman and host John DeMasi praised Giralo's job as County Clerk. Defense of Giralo:  Grossman noted at as a lawyer who deals with the Clerk's office, he finds that Giralo is one of the most efficient County Clerks he has deal with. He noted that deeds and other documents that once took weeks or months to process are now recorded within days. he host and Grossman praise Giralo's efficiency and responsiveness as county clerk.

Grossman Explains Why Elections with In-Person Voting on One Election Day are more honest and efficient:  1. People are more willing to lie on paper forms than in-person in front of election officials. 2.  There should not be electioneering within 200 feet of polling places. With paper ballots, evdry kitchen table is a polling place. 3. In-person voting screens out people who are obviously drunk, drugged up or otherwise not competent to vote. 4. Elections must appear to be honest and give people faith in the system. This is not possible with a 45 day harvest season of paper ballots.

 

Seth Grossman Book 1676 Project for sale on Amazon for $24.95 and now at six locations near Atlantic City for $20.

 

Why Four Muslim Countries Also Wanted U.S. to fight Iran.

Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar and its Muslim Brotherhood all wanted the United States to fight Iran. But they never wanted us to win. 

Jihadis now dominate the Islamic World and they believe they are winning: They believe Muslims are willing to fight and die for their cause, while Christians, Hindus and the West would rather peacefully submit. They believe that Muslim families are having 5, 10 and 15 children, while most young people in the west are not marrying and not having any children. They don't have to worry about supporting their children since they can count on Christian "compassion."  There are two main branches of Islam. Most are "Sunni." However most Muslims in Iran, Yemen, and parts of Lebanon are "Shia." Both Sunni and Shia agree that the  entire world must at some point submit to Islam. 

Almost all "Sunni" Muslims agree that one "Caliph" should run the Islamic World as a Caliphate.  However, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and The Muslim Brotherhood based in Qatar each think they should be the ones running it. They all oppose Iran because Iran wants its "12th Imam" to rule the world. They want Iran to be weak. They do not want Iran to be a strong pro-American country.

EDITED TRANSCRIPT OF HIGHLIGHTS:

SETH GROSSMAN:  1676 Project: How New Jersey Shaped America:   For sale on Amazon.com for $24.95. For sale at Liberty and Prosperity Saturday breakfasts in Somers Point, and at various stores nearby:

Galloway Township:  Beachwood Trading Co.  and One Nation in Historic Smithville.

Margate:  Finds at 10 South Essex Avenue.

Ocean City:  George's at 7th and Boardwalk and Ocean Treasures at 966 Boardwalk.

Somers Point: Rare Bird Collective, 426 Shore Road (corner of Groveland Ave.).

Seth Grossman and Liberty and Prosperity now a political issue in effort by Democrats to unseat Republican Jo Giralo as Atlantic County Clerk.

SETH GROSSMAN:  As a lawyer who deals with recording documents at the county courthouse, I can tell you personally that Joe Giralo is probably the most efficient county clerk we've ever had. There was a time when the county clerk clerk's office would take two or three months to record a deed or other simple document. Now, with Joe Giralo, everything is filed and posted online within a couple days. This is good for everyone who does business with real estate in Atlantic County. So if you can't run against somebody based on the job they're doing, -you have to talk about issues that have nothing to do with the job you are running for. And that is exactly what Lisa Bender, the Democrat running against Joe Giralo is doing. 

Last night, she posted something on her website that said - "Seth Grossman, - leader of Liberty and Prosperity, the Atlantic County Republican candidate for Congress in 2018, - an ally of, Joe Giralo made a post - claiming that many vote by mail voters - are uninformed, - intoxicated, - dependent on government assistance, - and manipulated into voting.". - And then she says, -"It's worth noting - that Atlantic County Clerk Joe Giralo has appeared - and spoken before - Liberty and Prosperity meetings and with Seth Grossman, and they have shared political circles and public events for years."

So, basically, she's saying, "Don't vote for Joe Giralo because he talks to Seth Grossman and goes to Liberty and Prosperity meetings."

JOHN DEMASI:  That is so ridiculous. - That is I mean, that's that's the most - ridiculous - thing I have ever heard in my life. - Joe Giralo - is one of the finest individuals, first of - all, I know. - Secondly, you are right, and people don't know - this. He's in his office all the time. I joke with him. I say "I heard you were in the office working late the other night. Now you're going into the office at a quarter-to-seven in the morning. He's in there at 6:30 A.M. He's all over the county. So, I - mean, - there is nobody better - than Joe Giralo. - And you know, - leave it to the Democrats to make an - issue out of something that isn't an issue. 

SETH GROSSMAN: Well, you see what they're doing. They want to say Seth Grossman is radical and extreme. They're goal is to goad Joe into saying, oh, Seth - Grossman. I never heard of him. I don't support these things. I just dropped by a Liberty and Prosperity breakfast once in a while because I was hungry and the serve a nice breakfast at Sal's.

But I want to make it clear, and I've been saying this for years. So called "mail-in ballots" that are collected by "community organizers" over a 45 day period are awful for many reasons. We need to return to in-person voting on one Election Day. I've been talking about this since 2020 when Trump lost that election. A lot of people claimed it was a stolen election and that there was massive fraud.

And I said, yes, there is some fraud in every election. But I said that most of the ballots that went against were signed by genuine people. However, they were harvested by community organizers over a 45 day period and many of them were drunk, on drugs, homeless, or all of those things and had no idea who they were voting for. And there was probably more fraud than usual. But you couldn't prove fraud in any court. Than is because when you mail in ballots and don't see the voters, you have no idea who voters are, where they really live, or whether they are capable of voting. You just see names of people on piece of paper.

That is why I have proposed for years that the only way to fix this is - to go back to in-person voting on one Election Day where everybody shows no ID. Because here are the problems with 45 days of mailing in or dropping in paper ballots.

1. Mail-in voting encourages fraud. I know as a lawyer that many, many times, people who are willing - to sign false papers or lie in an affidavit - in a lawyer's office - are not willing to say that same lie - in person in front of a judge. We know for a fact that with welfare - and unemployment claims, - you had a lot less fraud when people - had to go in person - and pick up their check - and swear in-person that they were looking for work that they were qualified for the benefits, that that everything they signed for on their forms was true. People are just more willing to lie quietly on a piece of paper privately, when they are not face-to-face in front of a public official.  It's human nature. I've seen it.

2. In-person voting prevents electioneering within 200 feet of a polling. In my history book, The 1676 Project, I point out that one of the greatest reforms that the founders of New Jersey started in 1676 was the idea of a secret ballot. Every voter had to appear in person on Election Day and put his or her ballot into a sealed Ballot Box so that everybody could see in person that every vote was genuine, and that every voter was real. We had that system for more than 300 years, and it worked! There was no reason to change it. 

Now there's no electioneering within 200 feet of the polling place when you have in-person voting on Election Day. But when you have mail-in and messenger ballots, every kitchen table and living room becomes a polling place. And we've all seen what happens: You have bullying, intimidation, - undue influence, all sorts of sorts of things. You - know, you have grandma at the kitchen table filling out her ballot, and a whole lot of people looking over her shoulder. Do you think her vote might be influenced by those people around her? Do you think she might vote for someone else if she were in a public polling place with the curtain closed?

3. In-person voting screens out people who are drunk, under the influence of drugs, or otherwise mentally incompetent. Well, if it's if it's not safe to - to drive a car, - when you're drunk or under the influence - should you have the power to choose people who will have the power to run our lives for the next three or four years?...