Licensed Poetics

Licensed Poetics

By Fung-Ling and DerekArtsBooks
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Licensed Poetics episodes

  • 20. Maybe the Real ‘Haberfield’ is the Creative Friends We Made Along the Way ft. Izzie Conti and Max Pinnegar

    The makers of the indie short film Looking For Haberfield sit down with Licensed Poetics and talk about their process. Also, they answer one of Derek’s burning questions: what did he miss out on by not going to film school?


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    Books Mentioned

    White Nights by Fyodor Dostoevsky

    Gilmore Girls (TV)

    Cleopatra and Frankenstein by Coco Mellors

    Araby by James Joyce

    On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous by Ocean Vuong

    This Is Going To Hurt by Adam Kay

    Young Mungo by Douglas Stuart

    Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus

    Breaking Bad (TV)

    Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy

    F Is For Family (TV)


    Chapters

    00:00 Music

    00:54 Guest bio

    03:03 Reading updates

    22:30 Interview

    48:11 Film school

    57 min
  • 19. Honest Review of Ocean Vuong ft. All The Best Podcast!

    You know you’ve found a literary nerd podcast when the hosts prefer reading the script over watching the play/film. Licensed Poetics is collaborating with All The Best Podcast! Phoebe and Isabella share their reading update and how they get involved with FBi radio. BFL and Derek are writing a story for All The Best! Stay tuned!

    Guests: Phoebe Adler-Ryan, Isabella Lee

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    Books Mentioned
    On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous by Ocean Vuong
    A Visit from the Goon Squad by Jennifer Egan
    The Hills of California by Jez Butterworth
    Beautiful World, Where Are You by Sally Rooney

    Chapters

    00:00 Music

    00:40 All The Best and FBi Radio bio

    05:08 Storytime with BFL

    14:00 Ocean Vuong opinions

    21:06 Sally Rooney

    34:00 Jez Butterworth

    46:42 Being story-makers

    50:56 Isabella’s project with ATB

    58 min
  • 18. How to Get into Poetry: Don’t Be Scared! ft. Tina Huang

    This episode is perfect for literary nerds. Writer Tina Huang chats to BFL about lowering the perceived entry requirement to poetry, her publish writing, and glaciers in New Zealand!

    Follow Tina on Instagram @tennisjock

    http://tinahuang.com.au/

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    Tina's work

    On the Verge

    https://www.tinahuang.com.au/writing/on-the-verge

    Phantom feelings

    https://meanjin.com.au/fiction/phantom-feelings/

    Books mentioned

    Passing by Nella Larsen

    Peter Gizzi

    Marilyn Abildskov

    Michelle Dicinoski

    Louise Gluck

    Elizabeth Gilbert

    ‘Poetry’ by Marianne Moore

    Chapters

    00:00 Music

    01:06 Tina bio

    01:42 BFL reading update

    05:09 Tina reading update

    11:32 Shoutout to Steph Niu

    14:09 Why poetry and creative non-fic?

    17:04 Don’t be cared of poetry

    26:46 Tina’s pieces

    35:04 Essayists

    38:20 Writing funny!

    44:15 Getting published

    56 min
  • 17. She does WHAT to self-destruct? Bookclub on My Year of Rest and Relaxation

    LP bookclub returns! Interim host Derek chats to BFL about My Year of Rest and Relaxation by Ottessa Moshfegh, the biggest title in the very popular unhinged women literary fiction genre. One host loved this book, the other not so much. Does it have anything to do with how self-destructive they are? Things get a little personal.

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    Books mentioned

    Big Swiss by Jen Beagin

    Fleabag (TV)

    Girls (TV)

    Xxx At the end of the world Japanese book - can't remember :(

    Araby by James Joyce

    The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger

    Crash Course literature videos by John Green

    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    04:45 Structure of episode

    19:29 Jeremy!!

    30:40 Spoiler section

    44:36 Books vs vlogs

    1 hr 8 min
  • 16. Booking this Job Cured My Depression ft. Eva Chen from Marvel's Shang-Chi :)

    A real Hollywood star joins LP in the studio!! Eva Chen talks to BFL and Derek about acting, auditioning, improv, standup, and her experience working on set for Marvel's Shang-Chi! BFL met her at a reading event and has since been convinced that actors should always do the reading, never the writers. This is also Derek's first episode as LP's interim host. Exciting!

    Find Eva on Instagram @eva0765

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    Books mentioned

    The Handmaiden by Park Chan-Wook (film)

    Prophet Song by Paul Lynch

    With Love, and Labour by Chelsea Hart (zine)

    The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson

    The Hitman by Richard Linklater (film)

    Barry by Alec Berg and Bill Hader (TV)

    New Girl (TV)

    Baby Reindeer (TV)

    Space Force (TV)

    Chapters

    00:00 Music

    01:12 Eva Chen bio

    02:20 BFL reading update

    10:02 Derek reading update

    15:26 Improv and standup

    24:34 How BFL met Eva

    34:40 Booking a job

    37:43 Eva is in Marvel’s Shang-Chi

    47:16 Writer on set

    57 min
  • 15. I Love Meaning! A Special Episode ft. LP friends

    LP is going out-of-studio! In this very special episode recorded between Shanghai and the Blue Mountains, a few recurring guests and new voices share their recent reads! We talk about a book that should have remained a Twitter feed instead of being published, Derek's penchant for disappearing because he's totally fictional, and the fact that meaning is awesome and Abby loves it.

    Guests in order of appearance: Cady, Marlene, Eezu, Maja, Derek, Abby

    Marlene's substack https://marlenejo.substack.com/

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    Books mentioned

    The Worlds I See by Fei-Fei Li

    The Almanack Of Naval Ravikant by Eric Jorgenson

    Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse

    Winter Recipes from the Collective by Louise Gluck

    All Things Are Too Small by Becca Rothfeld

    Never Closer by Grace Chapple (Play)

    POV by Mark Rogers and Solomon Thomas (Play)

    Introducing Sartre: A Graphic Guide by Philip Thody

    On the Road by Jack Kerouac

    Babel by RF Kuang

    A Little Life by Hanya Yanagihara

    Butter by Asako Yuzuki

    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    02:09 About audio quality

    02:51 Cady

    20:38 BFL

    24:25 Marlene

    29:34 Eezu

    38:46 Maja

    42:00 Derek

    47:10 Abby

    56 min
  • 14. LP Bookclub! Of Boobs and Trees: The Vegetarian ft. Derek Dao and Anya Vallentin

    The first ever Licensed Poetics book club is a roaring success. Recurring guests Anya and Derek join BFL in the studio to discuss The Vegetarian by South Korean writer Han Kang, winner of the Man Booker Prize. This stunningly original book asks important questions: what does the pursuit of art justify? What takes away women’s autonomy? What type of tree would you like to be?

    Anya: @lasagnevallentin

    Derek: @daonationspls

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    Books mentioned

    Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin

    Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck

    The Vegetarian by Han Kang

    The Last Duel by Ridley Scott (film)

    The White Book by Han Kang

    The Handmaiden by Park Chan-Wook (film)

    The Prestige by Christopher Nolan (film)

    00:00 Intro

    02:59 Guest intro

    07:00 Picking a book

    10:55 Overview of The Vegetarian

    13:07 Five word summary

    14:13 Mongolian Mark

    20:38 Becoming a plant

    43:31 From a Western perspective

    1 hr 11 min
  • 13. I’m Reading This Classic Novel so I Can Say I Have Read it ft. Joseph Hathaway-Wilson

    In BFL's first episode since going solo, she delivers a personal message. Then, she and the guest Joe, a wonderful writer and journalist, delve into In the Dream House by Carmen Maria Machado, discussing perspective and narrative voice. Joe then shares his experience organising grassroots arts initiative like the live music and poetry hub Debaser Events. BFL dreams about being a historian.

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    Books Mentioned

    In the Dream House by Carmen Maria Machado

    Her Body and Other Parties by Carmen Maria Machado

    Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky

    Ulysses by James Joyce

    Catch-22 by Joseph Heller

    Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett

    Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe

    Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco

    The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco

    Qian Zhongshu

    Chapters

    00:00 Music

    00:24 Personal Msg from BFL

    03:11 Joe’s bio

    03:53 In the Dream House

    17:25 Huge reading announcement 

    23:21 Grassroots arts initiatives 

    34:06 Student journals in university

    37:17 Writing about memory and nostalgia 

    40:25 Creative writing VS academic study

    47:34 Writing for journalism 

    54 min
  • 12. Naming Kitchen Tools After Your Fave Writers ft. Ying Chin

    Angelic harp music opens a very special episode - Achim’s last as the host of Licensed Poetics. Ying, a dear friend of LP’s, is a spoken word poet and musician. She joins LP in the studio to discuss discovering your inner artist and activist, showing up for what’s beautiful, and naming your instruments (or in BFL’s case, her rolling pin) after your favourite artist.

    Books mentioned

    Politics and the English Language by George Orwell

    Dearly by Margret Atwood

    The Sandman by Neil Gaiman

    The Flame by Leonard Cohen

    Women Who Run with the Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estés

    Chapters

    00:00 Reverie harp

    01:20 Ying’s bio

    02:16 BFL reading update

    08:24 Achim reading update

    17:25 Ying reading update

    18:43 Reverie harp II

    19:40 Naming instruments

    25:56 How Ying got started with poetry

    35:08 Musicality and poetry

    41:40 Nature poetry workshop

    51:54 Achim’s announcement

    53:28 Reverie harp III

    55 min
  • 11. Dealing with Butthurt Artists as an Editor or Critic ft. Claire Cao

    BFL giddily chats with Claire, a writer whose work she has admired for some time, about reading widely, editing fiction, and note-taking for TV. This episode is a must-listen for any aspiring artists out there. Also, please do not be butthurt if an editor makes a suggestion or a critic writes a negative review. Wow.

    Follow Claire on insta @clairecao

    https://clairecao.com.au

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    Books mentioned

    Ready Player One by Ernest Cline

    Happening by Annie Ernaux

    Simple Passion by Annie Ernaux

    Birds of America by Lorrie Moore

    The Pisces by Melissa Broder

    Milkfed by Melissa Broder

    Death Valley by Melissa Broder

    Gideon the Ninth by Tamsin Muir

    Here Out West (film)

    Chapters

    00:00 Music

    02:27 Claire bio

    03:48 BFL reading update

    17:54 Claire reading update

    22:46 Selection and editing process

    38:34 Writing for big publications

    40:39 Being a critic

    45:05 Long term goal for writing

    48:08 Claire’s advice

    51:30 Note-taking for TV

    58 min

About Licensed Poetics

From the publisher's feed

Licensed Poetics is a podcast where writers talk about books. Every fortnight, two writers, Fung-Ling and Derek sit down and get (overly) critical and excited about fiction, non-fiction, poetry, film, TV, or any other form of creative storytelling. In LP’s bookclub/film club/TV clubs, they offer their very honest and very writerly opinions. LP also invites talented people as guests to join their discussions, or to offer insight into the creative process.