Recorded on March 8, 2025 at Boundless Mind Temple in Brooklyn, NY.

"Can we picture it? 100 years from now, 200 years from now (...) that 'operational worldview of interdependent thriving[1]' becomes the norm...becomes the ground that everybody stands on.

AND—I would say—that to get there, we have to include impermanence and not be afraid of it...and not be afraid of things changing, not be afraid of things shifting and becoming unfamiliar.  Right down to the stuff that we depend on and gives us comfort."

[1] From Norma Wong, When No Thing Works: A Zen and Indigenous Perspective on Resilience, Shared Purpose, and Leadership in the Timeplace of Collapse.

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