In this episode of Life in Jest, Selene Castrovilla and Pascale Laforest are joined by librarian and Drinks in the Library host Gigi Howard for a funny, sharp, and surprisingly deep conversation about books, storytelling, and the strange state of modern reading culture.
The discussion spirals everywhere—in the best possible way:
- Why readers are becoming obsessed with dark romance
- Whether genres help readers… or trap writers
- Why romance novels are expected to guarantee happy endings
- The psychological appeal of horror, gothic fiction, and emotionally dark stories
- BookTok’s massive influence on publishing and reading trends
- Why some books become cultural phenomena while others disappear
- Edgar Allan Poe, Stephen King, Carrie, Wuthering Heights, Fifty Shades of Grey, and the chaos of trying to categorize literature at all
Along the way, the episode dives into censorship and book banning, literary snobbery, trauma and storytelling, women’s fiction vs. romance, and why modern audiences seem increasingly drawn to darker, more emotionally extreme fiction.
Funny, unfiltered, literary, chaotic, and unexpectedly poignant—this episode is what happens when three book lovers’ passions catch fire.
After you listen to this episode, head over to Gigi's podcast, where Selene is her guest, and they discuss Erica Jong's novel How To Save Your Own Life (the sequel to Fear of Flying).
Listen on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1TNhFpkAz79oV7bv55gNAz?si=2e78d98cbd6c4bc2
Listen on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-save-your-own-life-by-erica-jong-with-selene/id1731887273?i=1000768524513
About Gigi Howard & Drinks in the Library:
Gigi Howard is a librarian and the creator/host of the podcast Drinks in the Library, a conversational literary podcast where guests discuss favorite books while sharing themed drinks in a relaxed, intimate setting. The show blends literary analysis, personal storytelling, and book culture with the warmth of a real-life conversation among readers. The podcast has featured discussions on everything from romantasy and horror to literary fiction and classic novels.
You can find Drinks in the Library on major podcast platforms, including Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and follow Gigi online through the podcast’s social channels and podcast directories.
Instagram, Threads, TikTok & Facebook: @drinksinthelibrary
Website: drinksinthelibrary.com
email: [email protected]
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Thank you, Gigi! We had so much fun!!
Extra information:
Here's a follow-up on things mentioned in this episode:
The sequel to the book Primal Fear is Show of Evil.
The Philip Margolin book title that Selene couldn't remember is Heartstone.
This is the blog post about dark romance that Selene mentions:
https://briarblack.com/everything-about-dark-romance-books/
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