In this episode of LIGHT TALK, the Lumen Brothers interview lighting designer, artist, author, and educator, Clifton Taylor. Join Clifton, David and Stan as they pontificate about: Color and Light; Buy art from living artists; Lunch with David in LA; The Xtylos; Doing a "Nancy Pelosi"; Brightness and color; Natural color and Expressionistic Naturalism; Spending more time outside; The relativity of color; Culture and color; John Gleason; Learning color language; and Saving your soul in academia.

Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense.