In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Brothers (and Sistah!) interview lighting and visual designer Koert Vermeulen.   Join Koert, Ellen, Stan, and Steve, as they pontificate about: The genesis of ACT; Koert's involvement in the Flag Handover Ceremonies at the Olympic Closing Ceremonies; Flying and designing during the pandemic; Who hires you for the Olympics and do you get paid on time?; Designing from a hermetically sealed hotel in China; Political resistance to design choices; How Koert uses LED's; Designing the Cinesceni; How did the pandemic affect Koert's projects?; Koert's tools that he uses for previz; Advice for students of lighting, and LIGHT TALK in Europe!   Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense.