In this episode of LIGHT TALK, The Lumen Brothers (and SISTER!) talk about everything from How to Become Famous to Baby Reindeer.

Join Ellen, Brackley, Steve, Stan, and David as they pontificate about: Is it possible to get an even distribution of haze?; "There is a fine line between stupid and genius"; Advantages of using a performer tracking system; Our dream architectural lighting jobs; "The Pet Sweat Roadie Yum Yum Box"; Why we allow ourselves to be used; 36 or 50 Degrees; and How to become a famous lighting designer.

Nothing is Taboo, Nothing is Sacred, and Very Little Makes Sense.