Listen for REAL

Our guest: Sean Smith, author, speaker, actor, poet, songwriter, and the owner of Elite Success Systems. He is dedicated to creating “neuro-transformation” in all areas of human behavior. Sean has produced over 3,000 articles, audio files, and video resources on topics related to success and leadership, with over 1,000,000 views on YouTube. He has spoken globally and was named “North America’s Next Greatest Speaker” in 2013.

Sean co-wrote, produced, and starred in a unique spoken-word, short film, Let’s Grow, about healing racism. He is also known for his gut-wrenching, one-man show, I Do, Mom.

“I am a father and husband first, speaker and coach second. I am thoroughly flawed, cracked and mired with as many internal blocks and challenges as the rest of us. I’m a recovering perfectionist, I have a PhD in procrastination, and I sabotage myself on a daily basis.

But, I am completely fascinated with figuring out this game of life, how the human mind works, why we hold ourselves back, and teaching other people what I learn along the way.

My main business obsession is helping entrepreneurs get rid of their fears, values conflicts, limiting beliefs and sabotaging patterns so they can live life with passion, presence and purpose.”

Connect with Sean:

www.Facebook.com/CoachSeanSmith
www.Instagram.com/CoachSeanSmith
www.YouTube.com/CoachSeanSmith
www.LinkedIn.com/in/CoachSeanSmith
www.CoachSeanSmith.com
[email protected]

Sean’s TEDxFolsom talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruiPxhVDG4A&list=RDCMUCsT0YIqwnpJCM-mx7-gSA4Q&start_radio=1&rv=ruiPxhVDG4A&t=10

Sean’s critically acclaimed short film:  www.LetsGrowMovie.com

Connect with Jen:

email: [email protected]

website: www.beingREAL.me

Instagram @beingREALjen
 

Join us next episode and until then…keep communicating, connecting, and listening for REAL. It matters.

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter.

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Our guest: Sean Smith, author, speaker, actor, poet, songwriter, and the owner of Elite Success Systems. He is dedicated to creating “neuro-transformation” in all areas of human behavior. Sean has produced over 3,000 articles, audio files, and video resources on topics related to success and leadership, with over 1,000,000 views on YouTube. He has spoken globally and was named “North America’s Next Greatest Speaker” in 2013.

Sean co-wrote, produced, and starred in a unique spoken-word, short film, Let’s Grow, about healing racism. He is also known for his gut-wrenching, one-man show, I Do, Mom.

“I am a father and husband first, speaker and coach second. I am thoroughly flawed, cracked and mired with as many internal blocks and challenges as the rest of us. I’m a recovering perfectionist, I have a PhD in procrastination, and I sabotage myself on a daily basis.

But, I am completely fascinated with figuring out this game of life, how the human mind works, why we hold ourselves back, and teaching other people what I learn along the way.

My main business obsession is helping entrepreneurs get rid of their fears, values conflicts, limiting beliefs and sabotaging patterns so they can live life with passion, presence and purpose.”

Connect with Sean:

www.Facebook.com/CoachSeanSmith
www.Instagram.com/CoachSeanSmith
www.YouTube.com/CoachSeanSmith
www.LinkedIn.com/in/CoachSeanSmith
www.CoachSeanSmith.com
[email protected]

Sean’s TEDxFolsom talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruiPxhVDG4A&list=RDCMUCsT0YIqwnpJCM-mx7-gSA4Q&start_radio=1&rv=ruiPxhVDG4A&t=10

Sean’s critically acclaimed short film:  www.LetsGrowMovie.com

Connect with Jen:

email: [email protected]

website: www.beingREAL.me

Instagram @beingREALjen
 

Join us next episode and until then…keep communicating, connecting, and listening for REAL. It matters.

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter.

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Our guest: Valerie Alexander is a renowned expert on workplace happiness and a leading voice on equity and inclusion. 

As a globally-recognized speaker on the topics of happiness, the advancement of women, and unconscious bias, her keynotes and workshops have entertained, trained and inspired lawyers, artists, truck drivers, doctors, investment bankers, software developers, homemakers, CEOs and countless others around the world.

Valerie’s books include:

• Happiness as a Second Language — an Amazon #1 Seller,
• Success as a Second Language
• How Women Can Succeed in the Workplace (Despite Having “Female Brains”)

plus several more she’s published in her trademarked “…as a Second Language” series.

Valerie started her career as a corporate securities lawyer, investment banker and Internet executive in the Silicon Valley, then transitioned to Hollywood, where she enjoyed success as a screenwriter and director.

In addition to inspiring audiences worldwide as a keynote speaker, Valerie writes Christmas movies for the Hallmark Channel, which she knows you secretly love, even though you’ll only admit to watching them with your mom.

Connect with Valerie: 

https://www.speakhappiness.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/speakhappiness-keynotespeaker/
 

Connect with Jen:

email: [email protected]

website: www.beingREAL.me

Instagram @beingREALjen
 

Join us next episode and until then…keep speaking and definitely keep listening for REAL. It matters.

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast. Even better, share it with someone else as a REALconversation starter.

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Learn more about Tarana Burke at https://metoomvmt.org

Books referenced in this episode:

Unbound: My Story of Liberation and the Birth of the Me Too Movement

2021

You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience

2021

Connect with Jen!

email: [email protected]

website: www.beingREAL.me

Instagram @beingREALjen

Join us next episode and until then…keep speaking. And even more…keep listening for REAL. It matters.

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter.

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About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Guests: Vanassa Hamra, Kerry Ham, and Jawad* (last name withheld) work with World Relief, a global Christian humanitarian organization whose mission is to empower the local church to serve the most vulnerable. They aim to tackle the world’s greatest problems with holistic, locally-driven solutions that lead to lasting change — whether in response to disasters, extreme poverty, violence, oppression or mass displacement and immigration. World Relief’s work in the United States, specifically, focuses on helping refugees and other immigrants in vulnerable situations rebuild their lives in a new country.

Connect, give, or volunteer with the World Relief team at www.worldrelief.org/sacramento.

Connect with Jen!

email: [email protected]

website: www.beingREAL.me

Instagram @beingREALjen
 

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Our guest: Kim Stevens works as a licensed holistic therapist, specializing in trauma healing, dance & movement therapy, Neuro-emotional Technique (NET), and Buddhist psychology. 

One of her main passions and purposes is supporting others in releasing limiting beliefs and owning their power, creativity and sense of worthiness. She guides others in the process of learning how to feel their feelings in the most empowering, freeing and effective way possible. 

Connect with Kim on Instagram and TikTok @DanceFreedomBeauty

Kim Stevens can also be found on Facebook and YouTube.

Connect with Jen!

email: [email protected]

website: www.beingREAL.me

Instagram @beingREALjen
 

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Our guest: Kim Stevens works as a licensed holistic therapist, specializing in trauma healing, dance & movement therapy, Neuro-emotional Technique (NET), and Buddhist psychology. 

One of her main passions and purposes is supporting others in releasing limiting beliefs and owning their power, creativity and sense of worthiness. She guides others in the process of learning how to feel their feelings in the most empowering, freeing and effective way possible. 

Connect with Kim on Instagram and TikTok @DanceFreedomBeauty

Kim Stevens can also be found on Facebook and YouTube.

Connect with Jen!

email: [email protected]

website: www.beingREAL.me

Instagram @beingREALjen
 

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Our guest: Amanda Doucette  a.k.a “The Tax Chick” -  a tax lawyer practicing in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. She is the host of “The Tax Chick Podcast” and the founder of “The Tax Chick Blog”
Email: [email protected]
Instagram @tax.chick
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-doucette-tep-83a9ab51/?originalSubdomain=ca
Website: www.shtb-law.com
Blog: https://taxchickca.wordpress.com/
Podcast: https://thetaxchickpodcast.transistor.fm/
(Also available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Podbean, Pocketcast, and Amazon
Music)

BIO: Amanda Doucette is a problem solver who loves showcasing the human side of professional careers. In her day job she is a lawyer, helping her clients navigate the complex world of income tax, GST, and employment insurance.

Her passion is helping people navigate problems that seem insurmountable and empowering them so they feel in control of their business and decision-making. She truly believes tax is fun and aims to help her clients feel more confident in their tax situations, helping them understand relevant laws so they can avoid future issues.

Amanda dispels misinformation by talking to clients in plain English and carefully explaining all the angles regarding their situation. It's important to her that her clients feel validated and motivated to take action. She also focuses on providing a collaborative approach to succession and estate planning, bringing together a variety of experts, including lawyers, accountants, bookkeepers, financial advisors, insurance advisors, and internal controllers to develop and implement customized solutions for her clients.

In 2020, Amanda launched The Tax Chick Blog and the Tax Chick Podcast, each aimed at educating audiences about tax and estate planning issues. Both the blog and podcast allow her to take part in curious conversations, learn new things while educating others, and laugh.

In addition to The Tax Chick Podcast, Amanda has appeared as a guest on The Swell’Cast Podcast, The Life Resume, Fit to Practice and Lawyerpreneur Podcast.  She was also a co-author of the Amazon best-selling book “Pursuit:365”, a book celebrating Canadian women in the pursuit of happiness, success and fulfillment.

She has been featured in The Wellness Esquire and is a regular contributor to Fresh Magazine.

When she is not practicing, talking about, or writing about tax law, Amanda loves baking, spin class, and Pilates.

Connect with Jen:

Website: www.beingREAL.me

Jen’s Instagram: @beingREALjen

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Our guest: Julie Gohring is a feminine leadership & sales coach. She teaches women how to radically shift their mindset so they can be more effective in selling and bring forth their natural feminine superpowers to find more freedom & fun in sales. She is also the creator of the Selling is FeminineTM Selling Framework delivered in her Selling Is FeminineTM Live Training Course.

Julie graduated from UC Davis with a BS in Biology and has been selling for over 30 years and coaching women for the last 10 years. Her teachings are informed by her 1000’s of sales experiences across different industries including Fortune 500 companies, Pharmaceutical & Bio Tech Giants and for her own business.

One of her core teachings, contrary to the common idea that selling is competitive and aggressive, is that the most successful selling is always grounded in connecting and caring for your client and this fact makes women naturally gifted at sales.

When she’s not sharing her passion for the feminine rising in sales, she spends her time surfing, meandering the beach at sunset, and listening to the monkeys howl at her home in Costa Rica.

Jen’s website:

www.beingREAL.me

Jen’s Instagram:

@beingREALjen

Julie's contact info:

• free gift: https://sellingisfeminine.com/feminine-superpowers/
• website: https://sellingisfeminine.com/
• Instagram: @sellingisfeminine

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.

Jen’s website:

www.beingREAL.me

Jen’s Instagram:

@beingREALjen

Our guest for this episode:

Staci Bartley, Relationship Expert

Guest Bio: 

After more than 25 years of  personal struggle, shame, and guilt...I can honestly say I'm proud of my messy past. Because, it has given me the wisdom, knowledge, and the gifts to contribute to my clients. Trust me when I say I've lived many of the struggles that I now support and mentor my clients through. Including losing my dad at the age of 7, becoming a mom at 17, going through 2 divorces, and raising 6 children as a single mom. (Yes, I have a PhD in the school of life! In addition to my PhD- I am an Integrated Therapist, as well as a Divorce Mediator -incase you were needing some formal credentials too.:)

I empower couples and individuals from around the world to embrace their humanness, and love full out with NO regrets. We are not broken, we have just never been taught how to "do" relationships. This NOT knowing allows us to leverage and manipulate ourselves and our partners in the name of LOVE. It's time to stop spreading the lies and romantic stories that are just that: falsehoods and storybook fantasies that make us feel like we aren't good enough. Because the truth is: creating Love For A Lifetime looks nothing like fairy tales and movies.

If you're looking to really understand how relationships work, and learn real skills you can use for the rest of your life from a person who has LIVED what you're going through, then you can stop searching, because you've finally found the help you've been looking for.

Staci’s website:

https://stacibartley.com
 

Staci’s podcast and radio show:

https://stacibartley.com/podcast/

Staci’s Instagram:

@stacibartley

The origin story of Listen for REAL and the change we seek to create:

I am described as a white, cisgendered, straight-identifying, American-born woman with a history of Christian and conservative influences. My lived experience is one of solid economic security and educational privilege. This is the lens through which I viewed life  for the majority of my adult years - and it created a comfortable echo chamber where “my existing views were neatly reinforced and alternative ideas were rarely considered…”

I decided to pursue meaningful work, passion projects, and relationships that would serve as an antidote to the echo chamber. This podcast is part of that work.

Rather than put people in stereotypical  “boxes” -  I want to grow more curious and openminded and this means listening deeply to another person’s story, especially those who differ from me. It means challenging my old paradigms and assumptions.

I pursue this on a public platform because I want to see this mindset catch fire in our culture. We want to spur listeners toward healthy, candid conversations, and deep LISTENING with and for the people  in their lives and especially those whom they don’t know.

I am hopeful that the “antidote to the echo chamber” becomes a mantra for others - creating profound change. Thanks for being a part of this vision! -Jen 
 

About Jen Oliver:

Jen Oliver is a speaker, podcaster, and communications coach - equipping people to speak with greater impact and presence. Whether you are speaking on stage, promoting your brand, or voicing your needs in a relationship - communicating with your truest voice and cultivating human connection with your audience is the key to influence. Jen coaches individuals privately and within her Signature group programs - in addition to delivering workshops as a guest expert in a variety of settings.

Jen serves as a 4-season Executive Producer, Director of Curation, and Speaker Coach for TEDxFolsom. She is a committed force behind WomanSpeak™ - an internationally recognized body of work teaching the art and soul of public speaking. Jen is on a mission to support 1 million women as they speak with uncommon levels of freedom and confidence. Tap into more at

REALjenoliver.com

email: [email protected]

podcast website: ListenForREAL.com

90-day TEDx Talk ACCELERATOR

WomanSpeak™

website: REALJenOliver.com

LinkedIn:@thejenoliver

Instagram: @realjenoliver

Facebook: @jen.oliver.806001

If you believe conversations like these belong in the world, please subscribe, rate & review this podcast - and even better, share it with someone else as a REAL conversation starter. Subscribe to all things Jen at REALJenOliver.