Listen Then Speak

As we close out 2025, Jahmaal Marshall reflects on a powerful year of growth, leadership, and transformation within the Listen Then Speak community.

In this episode, Jahmaal explores the often-overlooked reality of high-functioning burnout, especially among senior leaders, high performers, and business owners who appear successful on the outside but are silently carrying exhaustion, emotional overload, and unspoken resentment.

You’ll hear insights drawn from client experiences (shared with full confidentiality) that reveal the financial, emotional, and relational cost of high-functioning codependency - and why managing symptoms is no longer enough.

This episode also sets the stage for what’s coming in 2026, including deeper conversations, expanded impact, and new ways for leaders to do the root work that leads to sustainable success.

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Why burnout in high performers often goes unnoticed

The hidden link between high achievement and high-functioning codependency

How subconscious beliefs quietly drain time, energy, and revenue

The true cost of over-responsibility and people-pleasing in leadership

What changes when leaders do the root work instead of managing symptoms

A preview of what’s coming next for the Listen Then Speak Podcast in 2026

Successful on the outside but exhausted in private? Explore working with Jahmaal. Complete the short qualification process to see whether his coaching is a fit: https://act-3-agency.link/lts-coach-pod

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In a sea of hot-takes and fast “advice”, it can be difficult to understand what is really important when it comes to success in business but also in life.

…and that’s before we even get to the “how”.

This week’s guest has not only distilled what is really important, but also how you get there when it comes to leveling up your life, your career and really, everything in-between.

Tee Smith is a leadership trainer, wisdom teacher, and entrepreneur whose mission is to raise Kingdom leaders who build wealth, impact, and influence with spiritual integrity.

Tee blends biblical wisdom, business strategy, and leadership mastery into practical teachings that help people

• Make wiser decisions
• Hear God more clearly
• Lead with emotional and spiritual maturity
• Build businesses that create real value and long-term impact.

Entrepreneurs follow him because his teachings produce clarity.

Investors follow him because his wisdom sharpens judgement.

And organizations follow him because his leadership principles create order, growth, and momentum.

This episode will give a sneak peek at what makes his point-of-view so valuable and the secret behind his own mindset, his approach to focus, ownership and much more!

Now, through REMarkit University, he’s offering a year-long path that helps you become the leader God designed you to be spiritually grounded, mentally sharp, and equipped to build wealth with wisdom.

Tired of thinking, “I need to get out of my own way?" Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt, and overworking: https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode

Episode Highlights:

0:00 - Introduction

1:29 - Meet Tee Smith

3:01 - Favorite genre of music / how it informs Tee

4:58 - Who you keep time with

9:05 - Extreme ownership and Tee’s “valleys”

13:48 - Quitters and the power of words

19:36 - Filtering information online

22:55 - The ‘F’ word

29:45 - Commitment

37:25 - 3 things Tee wants you to know, episode wrap-up

CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL

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Senior leaders, C-suite executives, and business owners are succeeding at unprecedented levels—yet many are silently battling stress, burnout, anxiety, and disordered boundaries.

In this powerful episode, Jahmaal Marshall speaks directly to high-performing leaders who feel exhausted behind the scenes and have normalized overwhelm as “the cost of success.”

This is not a conversation about productivity hacks or time management. It’s an invitation to uncover the subconscious beliefs driving overfunctioning, chronic stress, and emotional depletion, and to introduce a sustainable, measurable path forward.

Successful on the outside but exhausted in private? Explore working with Jahmaal. Complete the short qualification process to see whether his coaching is a fit: https://act-3-agency.link/lts-coach-pod

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Why leaders feel compelled to stay on call 24/7 and the subconscious fear that drives it.

How guilt-based decision-making leads to overcommitment and delayed growth.

Why “carrying everyone’s pain” becomes a silent tax on mental health.

How identity-level scripts — not poor time management — create chronic overwhelm.

Practical mindset shifts and boundary strategies that restore energy and clarity.

Tired of thinking, “I need to get out of my own way?" Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt ,and overworking: https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode

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In this episode, we cover:

Why nurse burnout is rising nationwide

The emotional weight behind compassion fatigue

Why stress in nursing is often ignored or minimized

The danger of “I’m fine” culture

How to create emotional and professional boundaries without guilt

Tools nurses can use to reconnect to purpose and protect their mental health

How the Listen Then Speak method restores communication and healing in healthcare teams

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Because burnout shouldn’t be the cost of caring.

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With 28 years as an international professional speaker and corporate trainer, Precious L. Williams has methods to empower her clients to secure millions in pitch competition winnings, secure lucrative speaking engagements, and have helped countless Fortune 500 companies outperform their competition. From the poverty-stricken streets of St. Louis, Missouri, to the global stage of influence, Precious’ story of transformation is nothing less than iconic.

Precious doesn’t just talk confidence, she embodies it. She’s a 13-time pitch competition champion, Shark Tank alum, bestselling author, and “Killer Pitch Master” and here, we explore what it really takes to build a brand, a business, and a bold voice from scratch.

Precious shares how she went from surviving homelessness and trauma to training Fortune 500 leaders and commanding global stages with fearless authenticity. We unpack her journey through abuse, mental health diagnoses, and professional reinvention, revealing how personal pain shaped her superpower: the ability to show up fully without code-switching, without apology, and without limits.

We also explore what it means to lead in uncertain times, why silence is the first step to clarity, and how audacity (not perfection) is the secret to becoming a true rainmaker. Whether you’re a corporate leader, government employee, or entrepreneur navigating career uncertainty, this conversation offers both strategy and soul. Plus, Precious shares three powerful “kisses of life” to help you reset and rise, no matter what season you’re in.

What’s Inside:

• How Precious survived homelessness and became an entrepreneurial powerhouse
• What it means to lead in uncertain times
• Three “kisses of life” to help you reset and rise to your greatest potential
  
   

Mentioned In This Episode:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/precious-l-williams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/perfectpitchgroup/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PreciousLWilliams

https://perfectpitchgroup.com/

https://perfectpitchgroup.com/events/

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As we step into a new season of conversations, insights, and growth, we want to hear from you directly. 

Who are our listeners? What challenges are you facing right now? And how can this podcast best serve you moving forward?

👉 To help us shape the future of Listen Then Speak, we’ve created a short, anonymous, and confidential listener survey. HERE

It only takes a few minutes, and your input will directly guide what comes next.

Thank you for listening, supporting, and being part of this journey. Here’s to the next 60 episodes and beyond!

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Evan Marks is a seasoned mental performance coach with over 25 years of Wall Street wisdom, previously serving as a Senior Consultant and Performance Advisor at The ReThink Group. Armed with a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Pennsylvania and a background in Division 1 Lacrosse, Evan’s journey is a story of resilience, strategic thinking, and an unyielding pursuit of excellence. From tackling unpredictable markets to coaching a diverse clientele, including NASCAR pit crews, athletes, executives, and Wall Street pros, Evan lives by the belief that “pressure is a privilege.”

In his role as a Senior Performance Coach, Evan brings cutting-edge techniques rooted in modern psychoanalysis and neuroscience to guide clients in high-pressure industries toward peak performance. Beyond the financial world, Evan extends his coaching experience to mentoring, showcasing his dedication to developing leadership, communication, and relationship skills.

Here, Evan tells the story of the massive panic attack that forced him to rethink everything, from his health to his life’s direction. He shares how chronic stress, ambition, and fear of regret shaped his early career and how he ultimately pivoted to become a performance coach focused on neuroscience, psychoanalysis, and sustainable mental fitness. We unpack why high performers burn out, how trauma creates false psychological safety, and what it takes to truly listen, recalibrate, and begin again.

We also dive into key strategies for long-term clarity and resilience, like managing energy through night routines, embracing imperfect action, and learning to speak with intention instead of reaction. Whether you're a leader, entrepreneur, or just feeling stuck, this conversation is packed with hard-won insights for moving forward with purpose.

What’s Inside:

• How a panic attack put Evan on a path of life transformation
• Why high performers often experience burnout
• How to speak with intention over reaction
   

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Ted Phaeton is a husband, father, and dog dad with a passion for helping men unlock their full potential through productivity, time mastery, and leadership. An Emmy Award-winning Morning Meteorologist at Queen City News in Charlotte, NC, Ted understands the power of structure, discipline, and efficiency—waking up at ungodly hours has made him a master of time optimization and peak performance.

As the host of The Modern Man Podcast (a globally ranked top 2% podcast), Ted is on a mission to connect men in pursuit of their greatest potential. Through his coaching, online mastermind community (The Noble Knights), and signature Tools of Time course, Ted provides proven frameworks for productivity, mindset, and success. His expertise helps high-achieving men take control of their schedules, master their habits, and create a life of purpose, efficiency, and freedom.

Ted is now expanding his impact into television hosting, game shows, and docuseries, aiming to bring his insights on time, human potential, and performance psychology to a larger audience. Whether behind the camera, on stage, or in the coaching arena, Ted is committed to helping men optimize their lives, lead with purpose, and elevate their capacity to show up for their families, businesses, and communities.

In this conversation, Ted shares the personal journey that led him to create Noble Knights. We dive into the quiet crisis of male isolation, the lessons Ted learned from mentorship and failure, and how reading No More Mr. Nice Guy became a turning point in reclaiming his voice and values. We also explore the emotional weight men carry behind success, the danger of clean armor, and why real strength comes from showing up cracked but still standing. From building The Modern Man podcast to leading weekly men’s groups, Ted is helping men redefine success, one honest conversation at a time.
 

What’s Inside:

• How Ted’s personal journey led him to create The Noble Knights
• Lessons Ted learned through mentorship and life experiences
• A deep dive into the emotional weight behind male success
   

Tired of saying, “I need to get out of my own way?" Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt, and overworking: https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode
 

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The Modern Man Podcast

https://themodernmanpodcast.com/ted

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealphaeton4kast/

Instagram Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/themodernmanpodcast/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ted-phaeton-3557261b/

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• The real leadership gap emerging in today’s orgs
• How to lead without losing yourself or your people
• A powerful 3-part framework to lead through ambiguity
• What to expect in the July 10th webinar with Mita Mallick 

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📘 Connect with Jahmaal Marshall
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall

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