Live Behind The Veil
Download on the App Store

Live Behind The Veil episodes

  • Creating A Pure Kingdom Atmosphere
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    “Creating a Pure Kingdom Atmosphere” explores how purity of spirit shapes the environment in which God moves. Each speaker emphasizes the inner condition of the heart—brokenness, humility, confession, and right motivation—as the essential foundation for maintaining a spiritual atmosphere where revelation, healing, and unity flourish. The episode stresses that a pure atmosphere is not something we enter; it is something we become. By refusing to relate to one another after the flesh, confronting our reactions, embracing God’s dealings, and pressing on to know the Lord, we create an atmosphere where His presence is free to work in and through the Body of Christ.
    Show Notes
    1. Purity Creates Atmosphere
    - A pure spirit purifies the environment around us.
    - The pure in heart see God (Matt. 5:8).
    - Jesus could not perform miracles among those who knew Him after the flesh.
    - We must know one another after the Spirit.
    2. The Formula for Purity
    - Psalm 51:17: A broken spirit and contrite heart create an atmosphere God receives.
    3. Entering a Pure Atmosphere
    - Humility and contrition open the door to God’s presence.
    4. Confession and Reactions
    - Confessing sins cleans the air spiritually.
    - Hidden reactions obstruct personal and communal growth.
    - Even small attitudes shape atmosphere.
    5. Evaluating the Spirit, Not Deeds
    - True evaluation is the motivation of the spirit.
    - Past victories or failures cannot define us.
    6. God’s Loving Wounding
    - God exposes, heals, and purifies.
    - Hosea 6:1–3—He tears and heals.
    7. Becoming the Atmosphere
    - By God’s grace, we become the spiritual atmosphere for one another.
    Key Quotes
    • “A pure spirit can purify the atmosphere.” — Dale
    • “A broken spirit and a contrite heart: there is the formula.” — Pauline
    • “If I react against someone, I hinder their growth and my own.” — Linda
    • “All you can evaluate is the motivation of your spirit.” — Pat
    • “The Lord can lance wounds and heal them—He can hurt you and bind you up again.” — Debbie

    Scriptural References
    Matthew 5:8 — Blessed are the pure in heart.
    Psalm 51:17 — A broken and contrite heart.
    Psalm 51:7–8 — Purify me with hyssop; restore joy.
    Jude 11 — The way of Cain.
    Hosea 6:1–3 — He tears and heals; He revives and raises up.
    2 Corinthians 5:16 — Know no one after the flesh.
    Philippians 3:7–14 — Forgetting what lies behind.
    Takeaway
    A pure kingdom atmosphere begins in the inner life. It is created not by outward actions but by a heart purified through brokenness, humility, confession, and right motivation. When we stop relating to each other after the flesh and allow God to expose and heal our reactions, we become vessels through which His presence flows. The pure atmosphere we long for is not something we enter—it is something God forms within us so we can become it for one another.
    10 min
  • The Rise Of The Prophet – Priest People
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    “The Rise of the Prophet-Priest People” unveils a deep spiritual reality: God is forming a remnant of believers who embody both the prophetic and priestly ministries, walking in oneness, love, and divine impartation. The speakers emphasize returning to the original purpose of God—people created in His image before time—to become a functioning Body led by the Spirit rather than religious structures. Like Ezekiel’s dry bones, the Church must be spoken to, revived, and brought into life and unity. This transformation is not based on individual greatness, denomination, or human qualification, but on the lordship of Christ, the creative Word, and a heart of willingness. God is forming a people who walk as one Body, without division, egos, or rank—where His glory alone is revealed through a many-membered expression of the prophet-priest people.
    Show Notes
    1. Created Before Time — Returning to Our Origin
    • Ephesians 1:3–6 reveals our identity before creation: spirit beings patterned after Christ.
    • Walking in this revelation brings urgency and clarity to the present day.

    2. The Dry Bones Must Live
    • The Church is like Ezekiel's dry bones—divided, lifeless, fragmented.
    • The Word and Spirit must be spoken to revive and unite the Body.
    • Life must be breathed not only into “the church,” but into all who hunger for God.

    3. Lordship of Jesus Christ
    • Access to God is based on relationship, not doctrine or denomination.
    • Denominations often create barriers to oneness; God is bringing forth a united family.

    4. The Emergence of the Prophet-Priest People
    • Yesterday emphasized preaching; today emphasizes impartation and priestly ministry.

    5. God Creates His Servants
    • God does not recruit the qualified—He creates servants by His Word.
    • Joel 2’s army represents people who walk in divine oneness, without competition or division.

    6. Oneness and the Many-Membered Body
    • Ministry is no longer about individual greatness but Body expression.
    • The creative Word is restored through the Body of Christ, not celebrity ministers.

    7. Simplicity of Relationship with God
    • God is not complicated.
    • The Kingdom is relational, intimate, and rooted in hunger and willingness.
    • “It’s not what you do—it’s who you are” in Him.

    Quotes
    • “We were dead in our trespasses—until the Spirit brought us into a new level of life.” —Ken
    • “Before creation, we stood before Him as spirit beings patterned after Jesus Christ.” —Mike
    • “The church today is like dry bones—lifeless until the Word and Spirit bring them together.” —Ed
    • “He doesn’t recruit worthy people. He creates His servants by a word from God.” —Ron
    • “Denominations oppose oneness. God is forming a family, not organizations.” —Ken

    Scriptural References
    Ephesians 1:3–6
    Ezekiel 37:1–14
    Joel 2:1–11
    Romans 8:14–17
    1 Peter 2:9
    John 17:20–23
    1 Corinthians 12:12–27
    Hebrews 6:1; 10:19–22
    Takeaway
    God is raising up a prophet-priest people—believers who walk in oneness, impartation, and relational intimacy with Him. This move of God is about becoming a people through whom Christ can be revealed, walking in simplicity, unity, and the creative Word of the Spirit.
    14 min
  • Hungering For His Righteousness
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    This episode explores the deep spiritual process of hungering and thirsting after the righteousness of God. The family emphasize that righteousness cannot be earned through human effort or religious works, but comes through submission, faith, and a genuine hunger for His presence. The Lord alone performs the inner transformation, removing the old nature (the 'chaff') and filling believers with His Spirit. Through humility, repentance, and faith, we position ourselves before God to receive His righteousness and live as true sons in His presence.
    Show Notes
    • True righteousness is not attained by works, but by hungering and thirsting after the Lord, allowing Him to fill and transform us by His Spirit.
    • Jesus Christ alone baptizes us with the Holy Spirit and fire — we cannot make ourselves righteous.
    • The 'fire' of God burns away the old nature (the chaff) to reveal His divine nature within us.
    • Our only responsibility is to submit to God with all our hearts and hunger after Him.
    • Faith is the movement that draws the righteousness of God into our lives — 'You can’t steer a parked car.'
    • Repentance is simply turning toward the Lord and humbling ourselves before Him.
    • Many people stop short of sonship, content with partial experiences of God, but the true sons go on to be made perfect before Him.
    • The greatest reality we can experience is the living presence of God within us.

    Quotes
    • “It’s Jesus Christ who’s doing the doing — He’s the one baptizing us with the Holy Spirit and fire.” — Ken
    • “There’s nothing we can do to obtain righteousness other than, like Abraham, believe the Lord.” — Mike
    • “It’s your hunger and thirst. Then the Lord will come and rain righteousness on you.” — Ron
    • “We do the submitting — He does the removing.” — Debbie
    • “Without faith, it’s impossible to please God.” — Ken
    • “People are looking for something real. The reality of God in your life is the greatest reality you’ll ever come to.” — Ken
    • “If you choose to become a son, you must go the way of the first Son.” — Debbie

    Scriptural References
    Matthew 5:6 – “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled.”
    Philippians 3:9 – “Not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ.”
    Romans 10:3–4 – “For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.”
    Hebrews 11:6 – “Without faith it is impossible to please Him.”
    John 4:10 – “If you knew the gift of God… you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”
    Ephesians 1:4–5 – “In love He predestined us before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before Him.”
    Takeaway
    The path to true righteousness is not through striving, but through surrender. When we position ourselves before God in humility and hunger, He fills us with His Spirit and purifies our nature. Our hunger and thirst open the door for His righteousness to reign in us — not by our efforts, but by His grace. Becoming a son means submitting to His process, allowing His fire to remove the chaff and reveal His life within us.
    10 min
  • Healing In The Family Of God
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    This episode explores how healing, growth, and maturity happen within the Family of God — not in isolation, but through love, correction, and openness to one another. The speakers discuss how Christ works in us and through one another, not “from the sky,” and how true oneness in the Body of Christ requires humility, confrontation, forgiveness, and submission to His lordship expressed through our spiritual relationships. The family becomes the instrument of God’s healing when we let His Spirit bring both correction and restoration in love.
    Show Notes
    • Blind spots are part of growth — we all have areas we can’t see; the issue is how we respond when others lovingly point them out.
    • Christ in us — not in the sky. The presence and ministry of Christ flow through the Body of believers.
    • Confrontation is love in action — correction from others is not rejection but an opportunity for transformation.
    • Spiritual oneness brings clarity — agreement in the Spirit brings freedom, flow, and the anointing.
    • Wounds from friends heal — true family love sometimes hurts, but it leads to purity of heart and deeper unity.
    • The shepherd’s heart — watching over one another is essential as we move forward together in the Kingdom.

    Quotes
    • “It’s Christ in us, not Christ in the sky. He’s put Himself and His presence in us.” — Ron
    • “We can’t do it by ourselves. We have to do it with each other.” — Ken
    • “These wounds I received in the house of my friends.” — Lois
    • “Create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me.” — Debbie
    • “We’re not going to be deceived because we’re one.” — Ken
    • “They’re not rejecting you — they’re walking with you through it.” — Ron
    • “Let them be one as We are one.” — Monnie
    • “If one hurts, we all hurt. If one’s conflicted, we’re all conflicted.” — Ken
    • “Give us the shepherd’s heart to watch for each other.” — Trisha

    Scriptural References
    Ephesians 4:15–16 – Speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ.
    Zechariah 13:6 – These wounds I received in the house of my friends.
    Psalm 51:10–12 – Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me.
    Psalm 139:23–24 – Search me, O God, and know my heart… see if there be any wicked way in me.
    Amos 3:3 – Can two walk together unless they are agreed?
    John 17:21 – That they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You.
    1 Corinthians 12:26 – If one member suffers, all the members suffer with it.
    Song of Solomon 2:4 – His banner over me is love.
    Takeaway
    True healing in God’s family comes not from avoiding conflict but from embracing it through love and submission. When we allow Christ to work through one another, our blind spots become places of revelation, our wounds become sources of wisdom, and our relationships become the very means of transformation. The Kingdom of God grows as His family walks in transparency, humility, and love — Christ in us, the hope of glory.
    13 min
  • A Lifestyle Of Dedication And Divine Direction
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    SUMMARY
    This episode explores the transformative journey of walking with God — a lifestyle of dedication, obedience, and continual movement into the “next phase” of His leading. The family reflect on how God leads His people much like He led Israel out of Egypt: through seasons of refreshing, seasons of movement, and seasons of deep personal dedication.
    They emphasize that the walk with God is not casual; it requires listening, obedience, and a willingness to pay the price of discipleship.
    The conversation also highlights God’s intention to manifest His presence through all His people, forming a remnant who are wholly devoted to Him. Each believer carries a piece of the puzzle, and together they reveal a greater picture of Christ. As the parousia — the presence of the Lord — becomes more real, His glory is being manifested in His saints in a new way.
    The episode closes with a call to wholeheartedly pursue this lifestyle, to know the voice of God, and to move with Him into the next level of His purpose.
    SHOW NOTES
    Main Theme:
    Walking with God requires dedication, obedience, and an ongoing willingness to move with Him into deeper phases of His purpose.
    Key Segments:
    • Delivered From Egypt to Walk With God

    Ken explains that every believer is brought out of their personal “Egypt” to enter a real relationship with God. There are times of refreshing and times of movement — and listening to His voice is essential.
    • God Seeking His Inheritance

    Mike shares that we are living in a day where the Holy Spirit and the presence of the Lord are becoming more tangible. We are part of God’s chosen inheritance.
    • The Old Testament as Our Pattern

    Ken emphasizes that the Old Testament is an example for us, teaching us how God leads His people and the consequences of obedience or disobedience.
    • Greasy Grace vs. God’s Exactness

    Ron highlights the danger of “greasy grace,” reminding listeners that God is still exacting in His word and that real relationship requires obedience and reverence.
    • The Price of the Lifestyle

    Ken speaks of the cost of walking in dedication — but also of the joy and fulfillment that come once that price is paid.
    • Separation of the Remnant

    God sets aside certain people because of their dedication. He is forming a bride who is wholly devoted to Him alone.
    • Each One Holds a Piece of the Puzzle

    Mike reminds us that no individual has all the answers. Together, the Body reveals the face and nature of Christ.
    • God Moving Through All His People

    Ron shares the excitement of seeing God expressing Himself through His diverse people — His creativity revealed through each vessel.
    • Knowing the Voice of God

    Ed stresses that knowing God’s voice is essential for direction, especially as He leads us into new phases of His purpose.
    • The Unveiling of the Lord’s Presence

    Ron describes how the parousia — the presence of the Lord — is becoming more real than the physical realm.
    • Christ Glorified in His Saints

    Ken reflects on how Christ is coming to be glorified in His people, not crucified again, and how His glory is being experienced more deeply.
    QUOTES
    • “There are times when the water flows out of the rock… and then there are times when He says, ‘Move on.’” — Ken
    • “This is why we were sent here. This is our destiny.” — Mike
    • “God’s still exacting in His Word.” — Ron
    • “Are you set to walk with the Lord no matter what?” — Debbie
    • “He’s gonna have a remnant… a bride looking only for the Bridegroom.” — Ken
    • “Each one of us has a piece of that puzzle.” — Mike
    • “God wants to move through everyone so that He has full expression.” — Ron
    • “Christ is not coming to be crucified afresh, but to be glorified in His saints.” — Ken

    SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES
    Exodus 13–17 — Israel’s journey out of Egypt: seasons of stillness and movement.
    Hebrews 3–4 — The call to hear His voice.
    1 Peter 2:9 — A people set apart.
    Ephesians 4:15–16 — Each joint supplying; each one having a part.
    John 10:27 — “My sheep hear My voice…”
    2 Thessalonians 1:10 — Christ glorified in His saints.
    Romans 12:1–2 — A lifestyle of dedication.
    John 3:8 — The wind of the Spirit — unseen but experienced.
    TAKEAWAY
    Walking with God is a lifestyle, not a moment. It requires dedication, sensitivity to His voice, and willingness to move when He says, “Move on.” God is forming a remnant who will walk with Him wholeheartedly, and His presence is being unveiled in a greater way than ever before. Each believer carries a piece of His expression — and together, we reveal His glory.
     
    9 min
  • Guarding The Heart And Mind In Truth
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    In this discussion, the family explore the importance of guarding the heart and mind through the Word of God, emphasizing faith, focus, and transformation by renewing the mind. Ken and others share that in times of confusion and anxiety, believers must anchor their thoughts in truth and maintain an atmosphere filled with God's presence. They highlight Philippians 4:8 as a blueprint for keeping the mind centered on what is true, honorable, and praiseworthy. The conversation calls for believers to shift from old patterns of thinking into a new day led by the Spirit, trusting that faith and rest in God will bring inner transformation and clarity.
    Show Notes
    • Living in a time of confusion and anxiety – holding the Word in the heart.
    • Applying Philippians 4:8 to guard thoughts with truth and righteousness.
    • Maintaining the right atmosphere around yourself through prayer and focus.
    • Transitioning from old ways of thinking into being led by the Holy Spirit.
    • The importance of teaching truth and renewal of the mind to younger generations.
    • Learning to rest in God’s promises rather than struggling in the flesh.
    • Faith as the foundation—believing God above circumstances or symptoms.
    • Wholeness in spirit, soul, and body as part of walking in sonship.
    Quotes
    • “Thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against Thee.” – Ken
    • “Whatever is true, whatever is right, whatever is of good report—dwell on these things.” – Ken
    • “I love to do that first thing in the morning—ask God, ‘What do You want for today?’” – Dale
    • “Be transformed by the renewing of your mind.” – Mike
    • “As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.” – Ken
    • “Without faith, it’s impossible to please God.” – Ken
    • “Christ came to end separation; we live in the fullness of His wholeness—spirit, soul, and body.” – Monnie
    Scriptural References
    • Psalm 119:11 – 'Thy word have I hid in my heart, that I might not sin against Thee.'
    • Philippians 4:8 – 'Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure... think on these things.'
    • Romans 12:1-2 – 'Be transformed by the renewing of your mind.'
    • Philippians 2:5 – 'Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus.'
    • Proverbs 23:7 – 'As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.'
    • Hebrews 11:6 – 'Without faith it is impossible to please God.'
    • Matthew 6:10 – 'Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.'
    Takeaway
    Guarding your heart and mind in truth begins with allowing the Word of God to reshape how you think and respond. Keep your thoughts anchored in what is true and righteous, let faith guide your perspective, and rest in God's presence. When your mind is renewed and set on the Spirit, you create an atmosphere of peace and transformation that reflects the heart of Christ.
    13 min
  • Family Repentance The Path To Oneness
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    In this heartfelt episode, the Live Behind the Veil family explores how repentance within the Body of Christ becomes a living expression of oneness. Through open sharing, Ken, Ron, Lois, Monnie, Trisha, and Debbie reveal that repentance is not condemnation—it’s the doorway to unity, healing, and spiritual transformation. True repentance is simply turning to the Lord and allowing Him to do the work in us and through our relationships. Together, the family shows how standing in the gap for one another releases the flow of God’s love and power in this new day of His appearing.
    Show Notes
    • The enemy seeks to divide, but repentance disarms him and restores oneness (Ken).
    • Job’s vicarious repentance for his children shows the heart of intercession (Lois).
    • True repentance is turning to the Lord, not self-effort or guilt (Ron).
    • The family of God is called to bear one another’s burdens and believe together (Ken, Monnie).
    • Clarity and freedom come when we open our hearts to one another and rest in the Lord’s work (Ken).
    • Admitting our weakness and dependence on God brings joy and creativity in His presence (Trisha).
    • Repentance brings healing and joy—love restoring each member back into their place in the Body (Ken, Debbie).

    Quotes
    • “There’s something about repentance—if we hold that in our hearts for each other because we’re a family and we’re one—anything that tries to come in, we can take care of it just by repentance for each other.” — Ken
    • “Job repented on behalf of his children. He was one with them, believing for the Lord’s forgiveness.” — Lois
    • “Repentance is simply turning to the Lord. When I find myself questioning, I can dwell on those thoughts—or I can just turn to the Lord.” — Ron
    • “We are helpers of one another’s faith. It’s interdependence—we need each other.” — Monnie
    • “Every time I’ve tried to correct myself, I find out I can’t do a very good job. But when I submit myself to the family, clarity comes.” — Ken
    • “I don’t know anything, Lord—and I’m happy to say it! Teach me. Create me.” — Trisha
    • “There’s no greater joy than seeing someone repent and turn back to the Lord.” — Ken
    Scriptural References
    • Job 1:5 – Job made offerings and repented for his children.
    • Galatians 6:2 – “Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.”
    • Romans 2:4 – “The kindness of God leads you to repentance.”
    • James 5:16 – “Confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed.”
    • John 16:12–13 – “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now... the Spirit of truth will guide you into all truth.”
    • 2 Chronicles 7:14 – “If My people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray and turn from their wicked ways...”
    • 1 John 1:9 – “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
    Takeaway
    Repentance is not about guilt—it’s about turning our hearts toward the Lord and each other. In this oneness, we find healing, clarity, and the release of God’s love. When we carry one another in repentance, the Body of Christ grows stronger, and the Lord’s presence becomes more real among us.
    11 min
  • Communion And Thanksgiving
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    This episode centers on the spiritual depth of communion — not as a ritual or remembrance of a distant event, but as a living reality of Christ’s presence within His people today. The family share heartfelt expressions of gratitude, reflecting on the coming of the Lord as a present experience within believers. Through prayer, thanksgiving, and reflection, the family emphasizes relationship over religion, reality over ritual, and life over theory. The conversation expresses deep awareness of God’s presence, His love (hesed), and the transformation occurring as Christ’s life becomes their life.
    Show Notes
    • Communion is not a ceremony from 2000 years ago — it’s a present reality of Christ’s life within us.
    • The coming of the Lord is happening in us, not as an external event.
    • God desires authenticity and reality in our relationship with Him.
    • Gratitude for the freedom and sonship made possible through Christ’s sacrifice.
    • The family offers personal prayers of thanksgiving for God’s love, grace, faithfulness, and presence.
    • Communion is described as partaking of Christ’s being, not just His symbols.
    • The focus moves away from ritual and toward fulfillment and manifestation.
    • Bill’s reflection encourages living with constant awareness of the breath of life — the presence of God.
    • Mike highlights the Word as divine instruction guiding believers in this present age.
    • The family expresses thanksgiving for being part of the unfolding Kingdom now.

    Key Quotes
    • “Christ coming forth in us is a reality.” — Ken
    • “We’re not looking for another time, another Jesus, another system. You are the answer to every need that we have.” — Ken
    • “We partake of Your whole being. We become as You are, Lord.” — Debbie
    • “Lord, You did so much to have a relationship with us.” — Lois
    • “Let our life, let our world be so aware that we breathe in a big gulp of You, Lord, and everything resets.” — Bill
    • “You fill us with Your fullness.” — Jennifer
    • “Those words truly are divine instructions for us in this hour that we live in.” — Mike
    • “We drink in Your presence, Father… You never leave us.” — Ron

    Scriptural References
    John 6:56 – 'Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.'
    1 Corinthians 10:16-17 – 'Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ?'
    Galatians 2:20 – 'It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.'
    John 17:21-23 – 'That they may all be one, even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You.'
    Romans 8:10-11 – 'If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life.'
    2 Corinthians 3:18 – 'We are being transformed into His image from glory to glory.'
    Takeaway
    Communion is not merely a remembrance — it’s participation in the living Christ who dwells within us now. This time of thanksgiving reminds us that the Lord’s coming is continuous, being revealed through His sons and daughters. As we live with awareness of His presence and breathe in His life daily, Christ’s reality becomes our reality, transforming us into expressions of His love, joy, and purpose on the earth.
    11 min
  • Becoming Wheat In The Master’s Hands
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    In this episode, the discussion centers on the deep, transformative work of God as He separates the chaff from the wheat within us — revealing the purity of His nature. Through loving discipline, repentance, and the baptism of fire, God removes the old human nature that obscures His divine life. The family share personal revelations and scriptural insights showing that what seems like suffering or correction is actually the Father’s loving process of making us into His sons. As the wheat is flailed to separate the chaff, so are we refined to reflect Christ in fullness.
    Show Notes
    • The chaff and wheat both represent parts of us — not the world versus the believer.
    • God uses fire, pressure, and suffering to remove the old nature.
    • Christ Himself was perfected through obedience and suffering (Hebrews 5:8–9).
    • The baptism of fire is a divine process of purification that leads to sonship.
    • True transformation happens through repentance, humility, and a contrite heart.
    • Every believer is under God’s hand of preparation — even before salvation.
    • Through ongoing repentance and surrender, the Holy Spirit can flow freely in and through us, just as it did in Christ.
    Application:
    • Submit to God’s dealings without resistance.
    • Maintain a daily heart of repentance and humility.
    • Recognize that suffering is not punishment but divine shaping.
    • Allow the Holy Spirit to remove all that hides the fullness of Christ in you.
    Quotes
    • “The chaff and the wheat are us together — our old nature growing up with our new.” — Debbie
    • “He has to flail us. He has to beat it out of us. It sounds negative, but it’s a loving thing.” — Debbie
    • “The Lord wants a sweet bread — He wants us to reflect Him.” — Ed
    • “He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” — Ken
    • “Christ suffered, and through that suffering, His obedience was made complete.” — Ron
    • “Repentance and a broken spirit are the key to becoming pure channels of God’s life.” — Mike
    • “All we can do is open up our hearts. God’s got to do the rest.” — Debbie
    • “Christ learned obedience through the things which He suffered — that’s how the chaff is removed.” — Ken
    Scriptural References
    • Matthew 3:11 – He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
    • Hebrews 5:8–9 – Though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered.
    • Psalm 51:10,17 – Create in me a clean heart, O God... a broken and contrite heart, O God, You will not despise.
    • John 5:19 – The Son can do nothing of Himself, but only what He sees the Father doing.
    • Ephesians 1:3–4 – He has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ.
    • 1 John 3:2 – When He appears, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.
    • Romans 8:29 – For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son.
    Takeaway
    The process of becoming wheat in the Master’s hands is not about punishment — it’s about love. God’s flail and fire are not meant to destroy but to purify. As we submit to His dealings with humility and repentance, He removes the chaff — the old nature — and reveals the pure wheat of His divine nature within us. Christ Himself walked this path of obedience and suffering, showing us the pattern of sonship. Our transformation is not by our own effort, but by surrendering to His work — allowing His Spirit to make us vessels through which His life flows continually.
     
    13 min
  • The Culmination Of The Ages: Rediscovering The Faith Of Our Fathers
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player.
    Summary
    In this compelling discussion, the family explore the deep connection between Christianity and its Jewish roots. Ron, Mike, Debbie, and Ken uncover how centuries of church history have drifted from the original faith of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They emphasize the need for believers to rediscover the Hebraic foundations of their faith, restoring the oneness that existed in the early church. As the Holy Spirit reveals truth for this present age, the group recognizes that God is blending Jew and Gentile together once again, preparing His bride for the culmination of the ages.
    Show Notes
    • The Root of the Faith: Christianity’s foundation is found in the patriarchs—Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The early church lost its connection to Judaism, leading to centuries of misunderstanding.
    • Historical Separation: By the second and third centuries, Christianity had distanced itself from its Jewish heritage, contributing to antisemitism and a perversion of the original message.
    • The Law and Fulfillment: Jesus did not abolish the Law but fulfilled it (Matthew 5:17). The Old Testament provides the framework for understanding the New Testament.
    • Restoration and Revelation: The Holy Spirit is unveiling truth in this age to bring restoration and unity. Believers must return to understanding God through His original covenant people.
    • The First-Century Model: Early believers continued observing feasts—Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles—while walking in the revelation of Christ.
    • Blending of Jew and Gentile: The Spirit is merging both groups into one new man (Ephesians 2:14-16). This union represents the bride being made ready for Christ.
    • Culmination of the Ages: God is perfecting His people by restoring what was lost. A new era is dawning, not by invention but by revelation of ancient truth.

    Quotes
    • “The root is the patriarchs — Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Christian church left those roots, and that’s why we’ve had 2,000 years of perversion.” — Ron
    • “If you don’t have the root, you cannot understand the New Testament. It’s the revelation of the Old Testament.” — Mike
    • “The Holy Spirit is revealing these things now because we’re coming into a time of the end, and we have to know the truth.” — Debbie
    • “Once they received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, they didn’t drop Passover, Pentecost, or Tabernacles — they blended right in.” — Mike
    • “This isn’t something new. It’s being revealed the way God wanted it to be from the beginning.” — Debbie

    Scriptural References
    Romans 11:17–18 – You do not support the root, but the root supports you.
    Matthew 5:17 – Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
    Ephesians 2:14–16 – For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the dividing wall.
    John 4:22 – Salvation is from the Jews.
    Romans 9:4–5 – Theirs is the adoption, the covenants, and the promises.
    Takeaway
    The restoration of God’s divine plan involves rediscovering the Jewish roots of our faith and allowing the Holy Spirit to reveal the fullness of His Word. This is not a return to the law, but a return to the life that flows from the root — the faith of our fathers. As Jew and Gentile believers come together in understanding and unity, the body of Christ is being made ready for the culmination of the ages — the unveiling of God’s perfect plan in His people.
    9 min

About Live Behind The Veil

From the publisher's feed

"Live Behind The Veil" is an atmosphere created by men and women of God speaking in the Holy Spirit the Father's Word. Spiritual and temporal topics are addressed openly and without respect to…