I sit down in Jaisalmer, India, with my friend Orland Bishop. If you've ever wondered what it might have been like to sit down with Alan Watts when he was alive and teaching, that's what I felt like when I first met Orland and during the entire conversation.

It's very uncommon that one person holds so many lineages and has the ability to speak the Perennial Philosophy through almost every statement that they make.

Orland is the founder of Shadetree Multicultural Foundation. He's based out of Los Angeles, but you can find him all over the world, in high-impact boardrooms advising some of the most influential people in the world, and spending a lot of his time with the most vulnerable populations and at-risk youth as a mentor.

Orland is a truly unique human being.

You'll really want to listen to what Orland is saying because he's communicating a lot more than just the words you hear - you'll know exactly what I mean in a few minutes.

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.

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