LOA Today - Your Daily Dose Of Happy

Change can be a daunting prospect, filled with uncertainty and the fear of the unknown. But as Walt and Jodielynn discovered in their captivating conversation, transitions can also be profound opportunities for growth, self-discovery, and the manifestation of our deepest desires.

The discussion began with Walt's observation that this time of year often brings significant shifts - economically, politically, and personally. Jodielynn resonated with this, noting how the discomfort of change can cause us to lose sight of the very things we've been striving for. "We want everything right now," she said, "and if it doesn't happen exactly the way that I think in my mind, then it's wrong."

Walt and Jodielynn delved deeper, exploring the emotional responses that often accompany transition. Jodielynn emphasized the importance of feeling and understanding our discomfort, rather than trying to suppress it. "You need to feel all of those feelings like I'm uncomfortable, and anytime we feel uncomfortable or angry or sad or anything, you know, we're like, Oh no, stay away. No, I can't feel bad."

The conversation took a deeply personal turn as Jodielynn shared her own journey of navigating a series of challenging life events - a miscarriage, illness, and a harrowing car accident. Rather than succumbing to despair, Jodielynn approached these experiences with an unwavering belief in the power of positive thinking and the law of attraction.

"I can very easily look at this from the stance of we're moving forward, where we've made some headway in this department, because things are hard when you can't see them," Jodielynn said, reflecting on her fertility struggles. Walt marveled at her resilience, noting how she had "disproved the entire medical industry" through her unwavering faith in her body's ability to heal.

Throughout the conversation, Walt and Jodielynn emphasized the importance of self-care, setting boundaries, and trusting one's intuition, even in the face of overwhelming odds. Jodielynn's father offered a poignant reminder that "the next steps will appear when you're ready," a lesson that resonated deeply with her.

As the discussion drew to a close, Walt and Jodielynn expressed gratitude for the opportunity to share their insights and experiences. Jodielynn's willingness to be vulnerable and open about her journey inspired Walt, who recognized the ripple effect that such stories can have on others.

"It only takes one," Jodielynn said, "like one person listening. If you just impact one person, say one thing that you know, lights that spark, that you know makes somebody think a little bit differently and brightens their entire life and future, like that's a ripple effect."

This powerful conversation serves as a testament to the transformative power of embracing life's transitions, finding strength in the face of adversity, and trusting the unfolding of our own unique journeys.

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In a world consumed by negativity, the conversation between Walt and Joel shines a beacon of hope, illuminating the transformative power of positivity. As they delve into the challenges of delegation and the importance of maintaining a positive mindset, their words resonate with a profound depth, inspiring us to reframe our own perspectives.

Walt’s insightful revelation about the need to learn something new every day sets the tone for this enlightening exchange. He shares his personal journey of overcoming the temptation to hold onto tasks, recognizing that the true skill lies in the art of delegation. “It’s not that I was bad at it. Don’t get me wrong. I from an early age, I was pretty good at it, but I didn’t realize what I was hanging on to half the time,” Walt reflects.

Joel’s candid recounting of his struggles with delegation paints a vivid picture of the challenges we all face in letting go. His story of the assistant who meticulously followed his instructions highlights the importance of finding the right person for the job, even if it means being more precise in our own work. “If the order that I say it, I know that, and I get that, and I appreciate the one who was willing and actually demanding that you allow him to do precisely what you told him to do,” Walt acknowledges.

As the conversation progresses, the focus shifts to the power of positivity, a theme that becomes the driving force behind their insights. Joel’s personal journey of reprogramming his mind to view Mondays positively serves as a testament to the transformative potential of a positive mindset. “I woke up and I go, Monday is Monday has become one of my favorite days of the week. It’s the most I look forward to work,” he shares.

The discussion delves deeper, exploring the impact of negative programming and the importance of addressing it. Walt’s own experience of uncovering a belief that had been affecting him for decades underscores the profound influence our subconscious can have on our lives. “It occurred to me, you talked earlier about how you like to tell people who ask how you’re doing, oh, I’m fantastic. That’s That’s your standard answer, yes, and by repeating that over and over again, you really do feel fantastic,” Walt observes.

Throughout the conversation, Walt and Joel emphasize the significance of focusing on the positive aspects of life, creating our own reality, and the power of energy and influence in shaping our experiences. Their words resonate with a sense of authenticity, inviting us to embark on our own transformative journey towards a more positive and fulfilling existence.

As we bid farewell to Walt and Joel, we are left with a renewed sense of hope and a deep appreciation for the transformative power of positivity. This conversation serves as a reminder that the path to happiness and success lies not in the external world, but in the way we choose to perceive and navigate it.

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Walt Thiessen welcomed author Andrew Matthews to his podcast, LOA Today, unveiling a profound exploration of the power of positivity, creativity, and unwavering persistence. As the two men delved into Andrew’s remarkable journey, listeners were left inspired and empowered to embrace the challenges life presents.

From the outset, Walt was struck by Andrew’s infectious energy, despite the early morning schedule for the Australian-based author. “I can just tell this is going to be fun,” Walt expressed, setting the tone for a dynamic and insightful dialogue.

Andrew’s path to becoming a celebrated author was anything but conventional. He shared how his initial passion for drawing and painting led him to the Art Students League of New York, where he honed his classical skills. However, it was a pivotal discovery that would shape the course of his life – the realization that the happiest people he knew had bigger problems than him.

“I couldn’t that made no sense, because I wasn’t as happy as I should be,” Andrew recalled. This revelation sparked a relentless pursuit to understand the mindset of happy individuals, leading him to write his first book, “Being Happy,” which was initially rejected by 17 publishers before finding immense success.

“Publisher number 18 sold 3 million copies,” Andrew shared, emphasizing the importance of persistence and the willingness to keep pushing forward, even in the face of adversity. This lesson was further reinforced by his experience with his first children’s book, which was rejected by 60 publishers before he found his footing.

As the conversation unfolded, Walt and Andrew delved into the power of creativity and its ability to captivate audiences. Andrew’s innovative approach to book signings, where he would draw cartoons and engage the crowd, proved to be a game-changer. “People would just come and watch me draw cartoons,” he explained, highlighting the universal appeal of witnessing the creative process.

The duo also explored the concept of resilience, with Andrew sharing his belief that “no disasters are total disasters.” He emphasized the importance of finding purpose, acceptance, and gratitude in the face of challenges, a perspective that resonated deeply with Walt.

“It’s not what happens to us, but it’s the action that we take that is the most important thing,” Andrew asserted, underscoring the transformative power of our mindset and the choices we make.

Walt, in turn, shared his own journey of learning to shift his perspective, moving from a place of despair to one of empowerment. “I wasn’t locked in to having to be frustrated by it or angry about it. I could actually find ways to find joy in it,” he revealed, a testament to the profound impact of Andrew’s teachings.

Throughout the conversation, the two men delved into the importance of creativity, persistence, and the power of support. Andrew’s father, a successful landscape painter, had a profound influence on his son’s belief that one can make a living doing what they love.

“I just had the good fortune to see that it was possible to make a living doing what you loved,” Andrew shared, a sentiment that resonated deeply with Walt, who had not been as fortunate in his own upbringing.

As the interview drew to a close, Walt expressed his gratitude on behalf of the countless individuals who have been positively impacted by Andrew’s work, both through his books and his generous sharing of insights. “Thank you for what you’re doing, because you’re making a difference in this world,” Walt said, a sentiment that echoed the profound impact of their conversation.

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Walt, Jodielynn, and Yvonne embarked on a journey of self-discovery, exploring the depths of personal growth, authenticity, and the power of the human spirit. This conversation was a testament to the transformative power of vulnerability, compassion, and the willingness to challenge our own beliefs.

Yvonne’s story was a tapestry of resilience and reinvention. From her humble beginnings in a small town to her corporate climb and eventual leap into the realm of holistic healing, her journey was a testament to the power of following one’s true calling. As Walt and Jodielynn listened intently, they found themselves drawn into the narrative, recognizing the parallels in their own lives and the universal truths that resonated within.

One of the central themes that emerged was the concept of soul contracts and the idea that our life experiences are not mere happenstance, but rather a carefully crafted blueprint for our growth and evolution. Jodielynn’s unwavering belief in this notion sparked a thought-provoking discussion, as Walt and Yvonne grappled with the complexities of this perspective.

“If my soul is sitting in that chair writing that contract, it’s from that perspective of those 1000s of lifetimes that I’ve been here,” Jodielynn shared, her words resonating with a profound wisdom that transcended the boundaries of time and space.

Yvonne’s approach to personal transformation was equally captivating, as she delved into the realm of hypnotherapy and the power of the subconscious mind. Her role as a “subconscious Safari guide” resonated deeply, as she emphasized the importance of uncovering and addressing the root causes of emotional issues, rather than simply treating the symptoms.

“We go in and we find the key that you unknowingly locked your own self and your emotional prison,” Yvonne explained, her words painting a vivid picture of the journey towards self-liberation.

Throughout the conversation, the trio grappled with the complexities of judgment, compassion, and the importance of intention. Yvonne’s insights on the power of curiosity and the need to approach others with an open heart and mind were particularly poignant.

“If we can just appreciate everybody just tells the story a little different way, if we can get rid of fear and judgment of self and others, then Heaven’s here on Earth,” Yvonne shared, her words resonating with a profound truth that challenged the listeners to examine their own biases and preconceptions.

In the end, this conversation was a testament to the power of connection, self-discovery, and the unwavering belief in the limitless potential that resides within each and every one of us. As Walt, Jodielynn, and Yvonne parted ways, the echoes of their words lingered, inspiring the listeners to embark on their own journeys of personal growth and transformation.

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Bev Mitelman delved into the profound and often misunderstood realm of attachment theory. Bev, a seasoned expert in the field of relationship and attachment trauma, shared her personal story and insights, offering a powerful roadmap for those seeking to heal from the wounds of their past.

The discussion began with a lighthearted exchange between Walt and co-host Anne Marie Young, as they explored the nuances of Anne Marie’s British accent and the fascination it often elicits from others. This playful banter set the stage for the deeper exploration that was to come.

Bev’s backstory was a testament to the resilience of the human spirit. She candidly shared her experiences of growing up in a chaotic home environment, marked by physical, mental, and emotional abuse. “I grew up not necessarily feeling that I had an emotional attunement to my parents,” Bev revealed, highlighting the profound impact that early childhood experiences can have on an individual’s development.

As the conversation unfolded, Bev expertly navigated the complexities of attachment theory, drawing a clear distinction between attachment and connection. “Attachment is an emotional bond with someone,” she explained, emphasizing the critical importance of secure attachment in early childhood for emotional and psychological well-being.

Walt and Bev delved into the various insecure attachment styles, including anxious-preoccupied, dismissive-avoidant, and fearful-avoidant. Bev’s insights shed light on the core wounds and behaviors associated with each style, underscoring the profound impact that these patterns can have on an individual’s relationships and overall sense of self.

Anne Marie’s thoughtful questions further enriched the discussion, as she explored the nuances of narcissism and the importance of understanding communication and relationship models. Bev’s responses highlighted the need for empathy and accountability, cautioning against the tendency to hastily label others without fully understanding the context.

One of the most poignant moments came when Bev shared her personal experience of growing up with a mentally ill mother and a stressed father. “I grew up feeling really, really confused,” she confessed, “because all I wanted was the love of this man, but I knew if I got too close, they could actually hurt me too.”

This powerful revelation underscored the profound impact that early childhood experiences can have on an individual’s attachment patterns and their ability to form healthy, trusting relationships. Bev’s emphasis on the importance of emotional regulation and the role of trauma-based therapies in the healing process resonated deeply.

Throughout the conversation, Walt and Bev emphasized the importance of understanding one’s own attachment style and core wounds. “If we come to the realization that we need to do some work on ourselves, and we’re having trouble in our relationships, and we’re not feeling like we’re calibrated, like we’re off balance, we can unlearn a lot of these patterns,” Bev shared.

The discussion also touched on the nuances of language and the need for accurate terminology when discussing topics like trauma and narcissism. Bev’s insights challenged the tendency to casually label and diagnose others, urging listeners to approach these sensitive subjects with empathy and a deeper understanding.

Bev shared the resources available through her organization, Securely Loved, including the free attachment style quiz and various counseling and workshop offerings.

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Lauren Hayes discussed the often-misunderstood world of ethical non-monogamy (ENM) and the swinging lifestyle. What emerged was a thought-provoking exploration of the deeper personal growth and self-awareness that can come from embracing this unconventional relationship model.

Lauren, a self-described swinger, began by explaining the nuances of ENM, differentiating it from the more commonly understood concept of cheating. “Ethically non-monogamous means that everyone involved in these situations knows everything that’s going on and is consenting,” she clarified. This emphasis on consent and transparency is a crucial aspect that sets ENM apart from unethical monogamy.

As Lauren shared her own journey into the swinging lifestyle, Walt and Jodi Lynn were struck by the level of vulnerability and communication required. “There are so many levels of connection that you can have with humans, from the cashier at the grocery store to, you know, you have a connection with that person,” Lauren explained.

“Humans love to connect. It’s what we live for. So there are so many levels between, hi, nice to meet you, and I’m in love with you, and these are all the levels that non-monogamy operates in which monogamy never really taught us.”

This revelation challenged the common misconception that non-monogamy is solely about sex. “I think people think about the sex and they stop there,” Jodi Lynn acknowledged. “But even in the example you used, if she has a girlfriend, that’s likely a deeper relationship than just sex.”

Lauren emphasized that the true value of exploring non-monogamy lies in the personal growth it can foster. “Knowing, loving and trusting yourself are probably the biggest things to come out of being part of the ethically non-monogamous community,” she shared. This sentiment was echoed by Walt, who recognized the importance of self-awareness as a foundation for navigating the complexities of non-monogamous relationships.

One of the key challenges Lauren highlighted was the need for clear communication and the establishment of boundaries. “There’s so much conversation that should, at least, I should say, be happening before you get into a bedroom, because, and there’s also same room, separate room. Some couples swap and like to be in the same room. Some like to be in separate rooms. So if you went with a couple in the bedroom and they’re like, Oh, we’re separate room, oh, we’re same room, like, that’s a complete incompatibility.”

This level of transparency and open dialogue, while daunting for some, is essential for the success and growth of non-monogamous relationships. As Walt observed, “you really need to have a strong background with talking about everything before you can even pursue it, because otherwise that, again, that’s going to be where you’re getting into, not just discomfort. You’re going to get into, like some really and that.”

Jodi Lynn’s final reflection encapsulated the deeper message of the conversation: “I think that the radical vulnerability that you have to have inside of this community, of course, you know, ripples out this tremendous personal growth. I can think of 1000 things that you would have to become conscious about or self aware about that you never thought about in your regular you know, day to day lives, or your regular relationships.”

In the end, Lauren’s insights challenged the preconceptions about non-monogamy and shed light on the profound personal transformation that can occur when individuals embrace the vulnerability and self-discovery inherent in this lifestyle.

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Expectations – the very word can evoke a range of emotions, from excitement to dread. But what if we told you that the secret to unlocking your full potential lies in mastering the art of expectation? In a captivating conversation, Walt and Joel delve deep into the profound impact of our expectations, revealing how they can either propel us towards greatness or hold us back in the depths of heartache.

As Walt shared, the concept of expectation as the “root of all heartache” initially seemed to clash with the common belief that our expectations drive our experiences. Joel eloquently explained the nuance, highlighting the crucial distinction between expectations of others and expectations of ourselves. “Expectations and relationships and jobs, expectations and friends, those are things that almost always let you down,” he cautioned. “You get resentments. You very seldom are they fulfilled most people’s expectations.”

The duo emphasized the importance of shifting our focus inward, cultivating expectations of success, good health, and quality relationships that are driven by our own self-belief, rather than relying on the actions of others. “The Law of Attraction version of expectations is, I’m, I have expectations of success, which are driven by me, by the way, expectations of good health, expectations of, you know, quality relationships, not by the other person, but by me bringing the two,” Joel explained.

As the conversation unfolded, Walt and Joel delved into the profound impact of this mindset shift, sharing personal anecdotes that highlighted the transformative power of embracing positive expectations. Joel’s journey of overcoming financial struggles by changing his mindset and focusing on abundance served as a powerful testament to the efficacy of this approach.

But the duo didn’t shy away from the challenges that can arise when we open ourselves up to the boundless possibilities of expectation. “There’s a fear of success comes responsibility, comes with different choices, comes with different things. And sometimes that is scary,” Joel acknowledged. Walt and Joel emphasized the importance of not letting fear of being overwhelmed or fear of failure prevent us from pursuing our highest aspirations.

The conversation took an intriguing turn when Walt shared his personal experience of using AI to track his nutritional intake, leading to a serendipitous discovery about the potential root cause of his chronic headaches. This unexpected revelation underscored the power of open expectations, as Walt’s willingness to explore new avenues ultimately led him to a valuable insight.

Throughout the discussion, Walt and Joel wove in the concept of the “ripple effect,” where positive expectations amplify and expand, creating a cascading impact on our lives. “The ripple effect can actually very accurately describe why there’s so much transition and progress and things that happen in life, because the ripples just keep growing. And growing and growing. They they keep increasing a number. Year after year after year. There’s more and more ripples,” Walt observed.

As the conversation drew to a close, the duo emphasized the importance of self-reliance and personal responsibility in the pursuit of our goals and dreams. “There’s nobody blocking themselves from abundance or relationships or health. Nobody is blocking themselves. Do it on purpose,” Joel asserted, underscoring the power of taking ownership of our own expectations and outcomes.

In the end, Walt and Joel’s captivating dialogue left us with a renewed sense of hope and a deeper understanding of the transformative potential of expectation.

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Arlene Miller’s story offers a glimmer of hope. As a longtime listener of the LOA Today podcast, Walt Thiessen welcomed Arlene onto the show, eager to uncover the hacks and insights she has gained through her own personal and professional experiences.

Arlene’s journey began as an attorney, where she quickly discovered the challenges of balancing a thriving career with the responsibilities of motherhood. “I really wish that I’d had like a coach, like a work-life balance coach like me when I was younger,” Arlene shared, “because it was really hard, you know, how do you start a business? How do you run everything? How do you be a mom and a wife and all the everything to everybody and still keep your sanity and take care of yourself?”

Recognizing the need for support, Arlene embarked on a transformative path, exploring the realms of mentoring, coaching, and holistic counseling. She now dedicates her time to helping women, and men, navigate the complexities of work-life balance, offering a compassionate and judgment-free space for her clients to explore their challenges and discover their own solutions.

One of the key insights Arlene shared was the importance of self-care. “It’s really important to learn how to cleanse and clear your energy field,” she explained, describing techniques like visualizing a golden cylinder to cut energetic connections and using the Universal Violet Flame to transmute fear into love. “Even if we’re doing things to protect ourselves, we’re still going to be impacted by what’s happening around us and and who we’re interacting with it. We can’t help it. And so we have to have ways to cleanse and clear ourselves after as well.”

Anne-Marie Young, one of Walt’s co-hosts, resonated deeply with Arlene’s message, sharing her own experiences of feeling overwhelmed and the importance of finding time for self-care. “I now work out in the mornings. I get up earlier, but that’s my me time, and that’s made just that little hour a day has made such a difference,” she revealed.

Throughout the conversation, Arlene emphasized the power of connection and the transformative potential of shared experiences. “When we give, so we receive, you know, because when we we really get something and we share it with other people, what comes back for me feels like so much more than I’m giving out. It just feels amazing, you know, to the feeling you get from other people, the love, the connection, and just the amazing to watch them change and grow in a way that is really helpful.”

Walt, too, recognized the profound impact of these connections, sharing his own experiences of the energy and fulfillment he derives from hosting the LOA Today podcast. “I get so much energy from doing this show. I mean, it’s almost a sin how well I do because of that, just because of how much energy I get out of doing this, people ask me, Well, is this your career? No, it’s not my career. It’s something that I do because I enjoy it, but I wouldn’t trade it for anything because of that.”

As the conversation drew to a close, Arlene generously offered a free discovery session to listeners, inviting them to explore their own challenges and goals. “Just mention Walt, Anne, Marie and Loa, and let to me, and you will get a free discovery session with me. It’s like a 45 minute session. We can explore what’s going on for you. There’s no obligation. It’s just my gift for for you guys, because you have me on this podcast, and I feel strongly to give back to your audience in that way.”

In the end, Arlene’s story serves as a powerful reminder that true balance and fulfillment can be found when we prioritize self-care, embrace the power of connection, and have the courage to step outside of our comfort zones. Her insights and generosity have the potential to inspire and empower countless individuals on their own journeys towards a more harmonious and joyful life.

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Beneath the glitz and glamour, the scars of narcissistic abuse can run deep, leaving lasting emotional wounds that often go unnoticed. In a captivating conversation, Walt Thiessen and Martina Gruppo delved into the complexities of this insidious form of manipulation, shedding light on the devastating impact it can have on individuals.

Martina’s story was a poignant reminder that the term “narcissist” has become a catchall phrase, often trivializing the true nature of this pervasive issue. “It’s almost become a byword for bad behavior,” she lamented, highlighting the need for a deeper understanding of the covert and coercive nature of narcissistic abuse.

As Walt and Martina explored the differences between overt and covert narcissism, a fascinating dynamic emerged. Martina shared her own experience, recounting how she had fallen in love in her 20s, only to find herself trapped in a relationship that slowly eroded her sense of self. “I had no idea what he was,” she confessed, a sentiment that resonates with countless others who have found themselves in similar situations.

The conversation delved into the intricate web of manipulation and control that often characterizes narcissistic relationships. Martina described the “hall of mirrors” effect, where the narcissist’s constant twisting of reality leaves the victim questioning their own perceptions. “There is nothing you can do to understand what you’re actually in,” she lamented, highlighting the insidious nature of this form of abuse.

Walt and Martina’s discussion also touched on the role of politics and public figures in perpetuating the narcissistic narrative. The parallels between personal relationships and the dynamics observed in the political arena were striking, with Martina drawing comparisons to the behavior of Donald Trump.

The conversation also delved into the profound impact of narcissistic abuse on physical and mental health. Martina shared her own experience of being diagnosed with cancer, acknowledging the role that the stress and emotional turmoil of her relationship played in her illness. “The more tranquil you are, the healthier you can be,” she asserted, underscoring the importance of addressing both the mental and physical aspects of recovery.

Throughout the discussion, Martina and Walt emphasized the critical importance of setting boundaries and developing self-awareness. Martina’s journey of rebuilding her self-esteem and reclaiming her identity was a testament to the power of resilience and the transformative potential of self-reflection.

As the conversation drew to a close, Walt expressed his gratitude for Martina’s willingness to share her story, acknowledging the unsung heroes of content creation who tirelessly work to help others. “On their behalf, thank you for what you’re doing,” he said, a sentiment that resonated deeply with Martina and serves as a poignant reminder of the impact that each of us can have, simply by sharing our experiences and insights.

Here is the post she referenced on the show with the video from 3+ years ago:
https://martinagruppo.substack.com/p/take-the-photo

And here is her recently released book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hello-Flower-story-narcissistic-invisible-ebook/dp/B0D4VTQLDK

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It can be easy to lose sight of the power of laughter to heal and unite.

However, in a captivating conversation between Walt and Joel, the duo delved into the transformative role of humor in navigating even the most challenging of circumstances.

Walt, the host of the LOA Today podcast, set the stage by introducing the topic, inspired by an interview with Dave Mowry, a guest who had used humor as a coping mechanism to overcome severe mental health issues. Joel, a life coach and LOA teacher, enthusiastically joined the discussion, sharing his own experiences with the therapeutic value of laughter.

“Humor is something that you and I have discussed in various forms and fashions over the years,” Joel explained, “just about the value of humor, the ability to laugh. It’s one of the great antidotes to depression and anxiety.” He went on to describe how humor can be a powerful coping mechanism, particularly for those in high-stress professions, such as law enforcement, where witnessing traumatic events can take a heavy toll.

Walt and Joel explored the nuances of using humor appropriately, acknowledging the importance of sensitivity and shared experiences. “There’s a line that you kind of have to pay attention to,” Walt noted, “like, there are a number of things that he said. For instance, he told some really funny jokes, actually very clean, interestingly enough, but, but funny jokes that he was telling today, and a couple of them I knew I could never tell. Why? Because I’ve never been through that kind of mental illness, but it was totally appropriate for him to tell.”

The conversation then shifted to the role of humor in healing and recovery, with Joel sharing a poignant story about a young cancer patient who used stand-up comedy to cope with his illness. “He attributes a lot of that to his recovery,” Joel recounted, “He just every day would do a stand-up routine. And he said, just the like one of his jokes, he said, you know, he said, one of his, I forget one of the jokes, but involved a catheter. He said, I’m a 10 year old boy at a catheter. He said, I don’t even need to finish that joke. And it was just stuff like that. It was just this bizarre, you know, out there stuff.”

Walt and Joel also explored the power of humor in building emotional connections, with Joel sharing a personal story about how a chance encounter with a neighbor’s child helped him find laughter and healing after the loss of his own son. “It was this hilarious moment that the first time since the death of my son, I’d actually laugh. And it was a I told you that when that happened, it was the first time I knew I was going to be okay, yes, because I was able to laugh again, because nothing was funny before that.”

As the conversation delved deeper, the duo touched on the role of humor in the context of good and evil, suggesting that finding the absurdity in difficult situations can be a powerful tool for maintaining perspective and emotional well-being. “If I can’t find something funny about it, that’s a clue to me. It’s a clue to me that I’m taking it too seriously,” Walt explained.

Throughout the discussion, Walt and Joel emphasized the importance of not taking oneself too seriously and embracing the healing power of laughter, even in the face of life’s darkest moments. “Humor is a solvent,” Joel concluded. “It’s a connector. It does a lot of things. And so when you’re talking about like, you’re talking about, sort of the comparison within good and evil and all the other stuff, humor can be sort of an antidote for all choices. It can it can add to the good. And it can be a sort of an attack on the evil on some level.”

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