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Norm Pattis is one of America's most fearless and outspoken trial lawyers — a champion of the marginalized who has built his career defending clients in some of the highest-stakes criminal and civil rights cases in the country. With over 150 jury trials and admissions to federal courts including the U.S. Supreme Court, he's earned a reputation as one of the fiercest defenders of the Constitution and free speech. Known for taking on controversial cases and clients that others refuse to touch, Norm has spent over 30 years fighting against government overreach and injustice. In this conversation, he opens up about the realities of the criminal justice system, what it truly means to defend the guilty and the innocent, and the personal toll of standing up for what's right in a system built to break you. #LockedInWithIanBick #TrueCrime #CriminalJustice #DefenseAttorney #LawAndOrder #CourtroomStories #JusticeSystem #realstories Thank you to BLUECHEW & K9S.ORG for sponsoring this episode: BlueChew: Visit https://bluechew.com/ and use promo code LOCKEDIN at checkout to get your first month of BlueChew & pay five bucks for shipping. K9s.org: Donate anytime at https://k9s.org/ Connect with Norm Pattis: https://www.pattispazlaw.com/ Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Who Is Norm Pattis? What Makes a Trial Lawyer Great 03:10 – Norm Pattis: Early Life, Background & Career Start 07:11 – College to Law School: How Norm Found His Calling 11:25 – Discovering Criminal Defense & Why It Hooked Him 13:50 – How Trial Lawyers Choose Clients & Case Strategy 17:37 – Social Media, Jury Pools & Modern High-Profile Cases 21:09 – The Media, Public Opinion & How It Impacts Trials 25:01 – Going to Trial: Tough Cases, Strategy & Client Decisions 31:05 – Juries Explained: Psychology, Testimony & Mirroring 36:26 – Federal vs State Court: Public Defenders, CJA & Differences 42:00 – Losing Cases, The Justice System & Prison Sentences 47:00 – The "Trial Tax," Plea Deals & Sentencing Realities 52:21 – Pro Bono Work, Crowdfunding & Taking the Right Cases 55:55 – AI in Law: Helpful Tools, Risks & Hallucinations 01:00:00 – Sentencing, Pre-Sentence Reports & What Judges Consider 01:05:00 – Norm Pattis: Biggest Lessons After 30 Years in the Courtroom

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Norm Pattis is one of America’s most fearless and outspoken trial lawyers — a champion of the marginalized who has built his career defending clients in some of the highest-stakes criminal and civil rights cases in the country. With over 150 jury trials and admissions to federal courts including the U.S. Supreme Court, he’s earned a reputation as one of the fiercest defenders of the Constitution and free speech. Known for taking on controversial cases and clients that others refuse to touch, Norm has spent over 30 years fighting against government overreach and injustice. In this conversation, he opens up about the realities of the criminal justice system, what it truly means to defend the guilty and the innocent, and the personal toll of standing up for what’s right in a system built to break you.

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Ben McChesney spent 25 years behind bars, serving time in more than a dozen state and federal prisons across the country — from low-level facilities to some of the toughest penitentiaries in America. His story is one of chaos, survival, and defiance. After being accused of stealing several pallets of firearms in what became one of the largest gun heists in his state, Ben went on the run to Mexico for two years before being captured. Acting as his own attorney, he fought multiple cases, beat a federal kidnapping charge, and survived years of violence and transfers across 14 federal prisons. Inside, he ran underground poker tables, fought predators, and lived by his own code. Raw, unfiltered, and brutally honest, Ben's story exposes the reality of long-term prison life, corruption, and what it truly takes to survive 25 years in the system. #LockedInWithIanBick #PrisonStories #TrueCrime #LifeInPrison #RedemptionStory #RealStories #PrisonLife #SurvivingPrison Thank you to BLUECHEW for sponsoring this episode: Visit https://bluechew.com/ and use promo code LOCKEDIN at checkout to get your first month of BlueChew & pay five bucks for shipping.

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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5DoYIuib0HYU65WDZpoyLc Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: From Wyoming State Prison to Federal Time 02:40 – Growing Up in Montana & Florida: Early Chaos Begins 06:00 – Family Life, Childhood Trauma & First Trouble 12:00 – Institutionalized Young: Juvenile Facilities & Reform Schools 19:00 – Early Criminal Mindset: Manipulation, Hustling & Survival 25:00 – Wild Behavior, Theft & the Road That Led to Prison 32:00 – First Adult Sentence: Inside Wyoming State Prison 39:00 – Maximum Security Life: Violence, Chaos & Prison Reality 46:00 – Solitary Confinement, Instigating & Survival Tactics 55:00 – Negotiating with the Warden & Gaining Prison Status 01:00:00 – Released from Wyoming: Back to the Streets 01:08:00 – Federal Case: Conspiracy Charges & Facing the Feds 01:15:00 – Federal Prison Journey: Medium Security to Camp 01:19:00 – Smuggling, Schemes & Controversy in Camp Life 01:25:00 – Fights, Transfers & Federal Prison Politics 01:32:00 – Sex Offenders, Prison Justice & Yard Rules 01:41:00 – Books, Mindset & Turning Life Around 01:46:00 – Beating a Case & Marriage Problems After Prison 01:54:00 – Financial Trouble & Planning a Major Gun Heist 02:03:00 – Gun Heist Fallout, Relationship Chaos & On the Run 02:13:00 – Life on the Run: Hiding in Mexico 02:27:00 – Captured in Mexico & Extradited Back to the U.S. 02:55:00 – Legal Battles: Kidnapping Charges & Polygraph Test 03:03:00 – Federal Trial, Sentencing & Wild Prison Stories 03:17:00 – Reentry, Parole & Learning to Live Free Again 03:24:00 – Staying Out for Good: Lessons, Redemption & Moving Forward

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Chris Feistl spent 26 years working for the DEA, including three years in Colombia during the 1990s, helping take down one of the most powerful drug empires in history — the Cali Cartel. His real-life work was portrayed in Narcos: Season 3, but the truth behind the show is even wilder. From undercover operations to high-stakes cartel takedowns, he witnessed firsthand the danger, corruption, and chaos of the war on drugs. Over his career, he earned the DEA Award of Honor, Award for Exceptional Service, and multiple Performance Awards for his role in international investigations. In this exclusive interview, he opens up about what really happened in Colombia, how Narcos got it right (and wrong), and what it was like to spend decades hunting some of the world's most dangerous traffickers. #LockedInWithIanBick #DEAAgent #Narcos #CaliCartel #TrueCrime #DrugCartel #NarcosNetflix #realstories Thank you to BLUECHEW for sponsoring this episode: Visit https://bluechew.com/ and use promo code LOCKEDIN at checkout to get your first month of BlueChew & pay five bucks for shipping. Connect with Chris Feistl: Website: www.After.Escobar.com. After Escobar is available on Amazon (http://a.co/d/4U3kWXB), Barnes and Noble (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/1146855946), www.AfterEscobar.com, and in select bookstores worldwide! Signed copies of After Escobar available only at www.AfterEscobar.com. Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 Becoming a DEA Agent & Taking Down Cartels 04:44 Early Life, Law Enforcement Dreams & First Arrests 13:11 From Small-Town Cop to Federal Agent 20:01 Joining the DEA: Training, Requirements & Reality 27:47 First Assignment in Miami — Cocaine Capital of the '80s 38:41 Inside the Miami Drug Wars: Chaos, Cartels & Corruption 45:42 Cartel Smuggling Tactics & DEA Challenges on the Ground 53:03 Dirty Cops, Corruption & How the DEA Adapted 01:01:12 Hunting the Cali Cartel Bosses in Colombia 01:12:40 Deep Undercover: The DEA's Dangerous Life in Colombia 01:20:01 Surviving the Cartel Wars — Second & Third DEA Tours 01:31:00 Coming Home: DEA Retirement & Life After the Mission 01:36:02 How Netflix's Narcos Got It Right (and Wrong) 01:40:02 Hard Lessons, Close Calls & Reflections from a DEA Agent

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Jahquan Allah grew up in the heart of New Jersey, surrounded by poverty, violence, and gang life. At just 16, he caught his first gun charge and spent most of his 20s in and out of jail, surviving the brutal reality of life as a Crip inside New Jersey prisons. After serving six years on another gun charge and being released in 2023, Jahquan made a decision to change everything. Now free, he's the founder of a fitness brand focused on discipline, redemption, and second chances. His story is a raw and powerful look into gang culture, prison survival, and the mindset it takes to rebuild your life after incarceration. #LockedInWithIanBick #NewJerseyPrisons #CripGang #PrisonStories #TrueCrime #GangLife #RedemptionStory #realstories Thank you to BLUECHEW & DAWS for sponsoring this episode: BlueChew: Visit https://bluechew.com/ and use promo code LOCKEDIN at checkout to get your first month of BlueChew & pay five bucks for shipping. DAWS: Go to http://www.daws.org/ to donate, adopt or send items from their wishlist. Connect with Jahquan Allah: IG: @Frontstreet_flash & @flashfitnessco TIKTOK: @flashfitnessco YOUTUBE: Flashfitnessco Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction & Guest's Powerful Story 02:06 Growing Up in New Jersey & Family Struggles 05:37 Early Influences & The Pull Toward Street Life 09:15 Violence, Guns & the Harsh Reality of the Streets 13:00 Gang Affiliation, Loyalty & Neighborhood Codes 16:40 First Arrest, Juvenile Detention & Lessons Learned 21:37 House Arrest, School Life & Staying Out of Trouble 25:03 Repeat Offenses, Jail Time & Survival Mindset 30:00 Fighting Charges & Navigating County Jail Life 34:41 What Daily Life in County Jail Is Really Like 37:48 Jail Gangs, Politics & The Absence of Real OGs 43:14 State Prison Life: Lockdowns, Structure & Survival 46:48 Getting Out, Relapsing & Landing Back Inside 52:15 Facing Serious Charges & Finding Strength in Adversity 58:00 Mindset Shift, Growth & The Road to Redemption 01:02:56 Leaving Gang Life Behind & Building a New Future 01:07:36 Final Reflections, Hard Truths & Life After Prison

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Alec Hackney spent nearly a decade in and out of Colorado prisons after first being locked up at just 17 years old for attempted murder. A Blood gang member for over 20 years, Alec survived being stabbed in the head, shot on the streets, and caught in the chaos of drugs, violence, and survival behind bars. After serving a 10-year sentence for drug conspiracy and getting clean 7 years ago, he decided to change his life completely. Since his release in 2023, Alec has opened a sober living home, a behavioral health and recovery coaching business, and a personal investment firm, using his story to help others find a way out of the same life he escaped. Alec shares what it was really like being a Blood inside Colorado prisons, the harsh reality of gang life, and how he turned years of pain into a purpose-driven mission to rebuild his life. #LockedInWithIanBick #ColoradoPrisons #BloodGang #PrisonStories #TrueCrime #GangLife #RedemptionStory #realstories Thank you to EXPRESSVPN & PRIZEPICKS for sponsoring this episode: ExpressVPN: Secure your online data TODAY by visiting https://www.expressvpn.com/lockedin to find out how you can get up to four extra months. Prizepicks: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/IANBICK and use code IANBICK and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Connect with Alec Hackney: Website: Goldstandarddenver.com Business IG & TikTok: @Goldstandarddenver Personal IG: @righthooks Personal TikTok: @wsdevine4 Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 From Denver Gangs to Locked In 01:00 From Prison to New York: Alec's New Beginning 03:00 Surviving Floods & Finding Purpose in NYC 06:00 From Gang Life to Business Owner & Mentor 10:00 Growing Up Fast & Falling Into the Streets 14:00 Denver Gangs, Loyalty & First Felony Case 17:00 Family Trauma & the Path to Violence 20:00 Inside Denver's Gang Culture 22:00 Life in the Streets & Gang Politics 25:00 High School Behind Bars: Growing Up in Prison 29:00 Prison Boot Camp, Discipline & Survival 33:00 Violence, Addiction & Prison Reality 36:00 Losing Loved Ones & Finding a Turning Point 40:00 Breaking the Cycle & Building a New Life 44:00 Reclaiming Identity After Prison 47:00 Gang Identity, Change & Self-Reflection 51:00 Business, Recovery & Helping Others Heal 55:00 Prison Politics, Race & Hard Truths 01:00:00 Moving Beyond Gangs & Finding Purpose 01:05:00 Fatherhood, Tattoos & Building Confidence 01:09:00 Mentorship, Redemption & Final Reflections

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Teen Mom star Farrah Abraham sits down with Ian Bick for an unfiltered and emotional conversation about her life in the spotlight. From her early days on MTV's Teen Mom to the pressures of fame, her public arrests, and the story behind her infamous sex tape, Farrah opens up about everything the world thinks it knows — and the truth that most people never hear. She talks about the cost of growing up on reality TV, dealing with judgment from millions, and what it's really like trying to rebuild your life when the internet won't let you move on. #FarrahAbraham #TeenMom #LockedInWithIanBick #RealityTV #CelebrityInterview #ScandalToRedemption #RealStories #popculture Thank you to EXPRESSVPN & PRIZEPICKS for sponsoring this episode: ExpressVPN: Secure your online data TODAY by visiting https://www.expressvpn.com/lockedin to find out how you can get up to four extra months. Prizepicks: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/IANBICK and use code IANBICK and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Connect with Farrah Abraham: https://www.instagram.com/farrahabraham/?hl=en Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 From Teen Mom to Infamy — Life After the Sex Tape 02:21 Farrah's Early Life & The Family That Shaped Her 03:36 Becoming a Mom as a Teen & Raising Herself 04:46 Surviving Loss, Abuse & Fighting Back 05:50 The Moment Fame Hit — Labels, Judgments & Reality TV 07:01 High School, Pain & Growing Up in the Spotlight 09:12 Depression, Court Battles & Learning to Cope 12:42 How 16 & Pregnant Changed Everything 15:11 Becoming the Face of Teen Mom — The Real Story 20:01 Reality TV, Identity & Breaking Away From MTV 24:01 Life After Fame — Finding Herself Again 29:40 Misconceptions, Public Image & the Price of Fame 34:45 Getting Fired From Teen Mom — What Really Happened 38:42 The Fallout — Sex Tape, Mental Health & Starting Over 41:12 Turning Scandal Into Business & Motherhood Lessons 44:29 Dealing With Haters, Bullying & Fame's Dark Side 47:28 What Viewers Didn't See: Teen Mom, Alcohol & Pressure 52:53 Arrests, Legal Fights & the Cost of Being Farrah Abraham 01:03:00 Trauma Recovery, Healing & Growth 01:10:03 Her Latest Arrest — The Truth Behind It 01:14:49 Creepy Fans, Stalkers & Staying Safe 01:17:07 What She'd Tell Her Teenage Self 01:19:15 Biggest Life Lessons Learned 01:25:39 Closing Thoughts & Farrah's Next Chapter

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Dave Franke shares the journey that most people could never imagine living through. Growing up in California, Dave became involved in the skinhead gang lifestyle at a young age, pulled in by identity, belonging, and survival. That path led him into some of the hardest jails and prisons in California, where violence, politics, and racial tension were a part of everyday life. Over time, Dave began questioning everything—his beliefs, his identity, and the world he thought he understood. He eventually renounced the skinhead lifestyle, determined to break the cycle and find a new purpose. After rebuilding his life and establishing himself in a stable career, he took a dramatic turn few would ever see coming: he went to Mexico and worked alongside law enforcement in operations targeting drug cartels. #LockedInWithIanBick #RealStories #PrisonStories #TrueCrime #CartelStories #SurvivorStory #ChangeYourLife #StreetToStrength Thank you to BRUNT & PRIZEPICKS for sponsoring this episode: Brunt: $10 Off @BRUNT with code LOCKEDIN at https://www.bruntworkwear.com/lockedin #bruntpod Prizepicks: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/IANBICK and use code IANBICK and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Connect with Dave Franke: Website: www.davefranke.com YouTube: https://youtube.com/@fusilautomaticoligero?si=kJHAaAOFDolhk7iq Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 The School Fight That Changed Everything 02:56 Growing Up, Family Struggles & Moving Across States 06:39 Culture Shock: From Iowa to L.A. and Learning to Survive 09:46 Teen Dreams, First Trouble & the Path Toward Violence 13:48 Gang Life, Juvenile Hall & the Skinhead Mentality 20:41 Proving Himself Through Violence & Street Respect 26:11 Facing an Attempted Murder Charge in L.A. County Jail 34:34 Life Inside One of America's Toughest Jails 43:05 Surviving the System & Questioning His Identity 52:18 Tattoo Stories, Regret & The Start of Change 01:01:00 Sobriety, Malcolm X & Opening His Mind 01:07:00 Trying to Join the Military & Finding a Work Ethic 01:16:00 Heading to Mexico: Manufacturing, Violence & Opportunity 01:24:00 Becoming a Mexican Agent & Training Police 01:33:01 Inside Cartel Hunts & Life With Special Forces 01:44:42 Racism, Trust & Living on the Edge in Mexico 01:53:01 Coming Home: Law School, Purpose & Redemption 01:58:00 Life Now: Reinvention & Lessons for the Next Generation 02:03:37 Final Reflections, Gratitude & The Power of Change

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Michy Morillo opens up about her experience being pushed into the street life at a young age and how quickly things escalated. As a teenager, her house arrest was revoked, and she was sent to juvenile prison, where she spent years navigating a system that was not built to help kids, but to break them. Michy shares what it was like to be locked away so young, separated from family, and forced to adapt to an environment where survival came before everything else. She talks about the emotional and psychological impact of incarceration — acting out, being isolated, and learning to shut down her feelings just to make it through. But what stands out in Michy's story is not just the pain — it's the transformation that came after. She explains how she eventually found purpose, rebuilt her identity from the ground up, and committed herself to helping the youth who are walking the same path she once did. #LockedInWithIanBick #JuvenilePrison #RealStories #StreetLife #SystemFailedMe #LifeLessons #RedemptionJourney #changeyourlife Thank you to ExpressVPN for sponsoring this episode: Secure your online data TODAY by visiting https://www.expressvpn.com/lockedin to find out how you can get up to four extra months. Social Media: @Michye.Morillo Website: Millionyouthmission.org (Donate, Pray or Share) Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 Intro — "This Is Where It All Started" 02:23 Thrown Into the System as a Teenager 05:50 Trying to Survive While My Family Fell Apart 11:00 Inside Juvenile Detention — What They Don't Tell You 17:39 Growing Up Without a Father & Filling the Void 22:08 Drugs, Betrayal, and Looking for Belonging in the Streets 28:05 The Legal Trouble That Changed Everything 33:34 What Juvenile Detention Does to a Kid's Mind 41:39 Trauma, Family Pain & Why So Many Follow the Same Path 47:12 The Moment Everything Shifted — Choosing Change 53:35 How "Cell Dreamer" Was Born Out of Pain 57:36 For Anyone Trying to Give Back — Start Here 01:02:02 A Message to Parents & The Kids Still Caught in the System

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Michy Morillo opens up about her experience being pushed into the street life at a young age and how quickly things escalated. As a teenager, her house arrest was revoked, and she was sent to juvenile prison, where she spent years navigating a system that was not built to help kids, but to break them. Michy shares what it was like to be locked away so young, separated from family, and forced to adapt to an environment where survival came before everything else. She talks about the emotional and psychological impact of incarceration — acting out, being isolated, and learning to shut down her feelings just to make it through. But what stands out in Michy’s story is not just the pain — it’s the transformation that came after. She explains how she eventually found purpose, rebuilt her identity from the ground up, and committed herself to helping the youth who are walking the same path she once did.

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