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- Episode 565: Susan B. Glasser
Susan Glasser, the former editor of Politico and Foreign Policy, writes the "Letter from Washington" column for the The New Yorker. Her most recent book, written with Peter Baker, is The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021.
“There’s a great benefit to leaving Washington and then coming back, or frankly leaving anywhere and then coming back. I think you have much wider open eyes. Washington, like a lot of company towns, takes on a logic of its own, and things that can seem crazy to the rest of the country, to the rest of the world, somehow end up making more sense than they should when you’re just doing that all day long, every day.”
Show notes:
- @sbg1
- Glasser on Longform
- Glasser’s New Yorker archive
- 05:00 “The Year We Stopped Being Able to Pretend About Trump” (New Yorker • Dec 2023)
- 16:00 Glasser’s Politico archive
- 20:00 The Man Who Ran Washington (Glasser and Peter Baker • Anchor • 2021)
- 28:00 Peter Baker's New York Times archive
- 29:00 Kremlin Rising (Glasser and Peter Baker • Scribner • 2005)
- 37:00Theo Baker on the Longform Podcast
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46 min - Episode 564: Rob Copeland
Rob Copeland is a finance reporter for The New York Times. His recent book is The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and the Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend.
“If I stab you, I'm going to stab you in the chest, not the back. You're going to see it coming. ... But if you're going to tell me something's wrong, you have to keep talking. I'm not going to take your word for it. I have a reason for why I believe my reporting to be true, and I'm going to present it to you as best I can. But just because you say something's wrong doesn't make it so.”
Show notes:
- @realrobcopeland
- Copeland's New York Times archive
- Copeland’s Wall Street Journal archive
- 02:00 The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and the Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend (St. Martin’s Press • 2023)
- 20:00 The Vow (HBO)
- 27:00 Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup (John Carreyou • Vintage • 2020)
- 29:00 "#557: Adam Grant" (Longform Podcast • Nov 2023)
- 29:00 Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World (Adam Grant • Penguin Books • 2017)
- 31:00 "Elon Musk Says He Lives in a $50,000 House. He Doesn’t Talk About the Austin Mansion." (Wall Street Journal • Dec 2021)
- 37:00 Principles: Life and Work (Ray Dalio • Avid Reader Press • 2017)
- 46:00 Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon (Michael Lewis • W. W. Norton & Company • 2023)
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49 min - Episode 563: Miles Johnson
Miles Johnson is an investigative reporter for the Financial Times. He is the author of Chasing Shadows: A True Story of Drugs, War and the Secret World of International Crime and the host of Hot Money: The New Narcos.
“I’m really fascinated always by the ways in which people just have to do really boring parts of running a crime organization … I love the banalities of this stuff. We have a fictionalized version of crime groups and it’s obviously glamorous, and they’re really smart, but there’s a lot of stuff that’s bumbling incompetence as well or just quite unglamorous.”
Show notes:
- @MilesMJohnson
- Johnson’s Financial Times archive
- 06:00 Johnson’s Guardian archive
- 07:00 Paul Murphy’s Financial Times archive
- 9:00 “How the Mafia Infiltrated Italy’s Hospitals and Laundered the Profits Globally” (Financial Times • July 2020)
- 14:00 “The Mystery of the Mogul, the Casino and the Heist that Rocked Mayfair” (Financial Times • May 2022)
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59 min - Rerun: #533 Hua Hsu (May 2023)
Hua Hsu is a staff writer for The New Yorker. His book Stay True won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize for memoir.
“I've worked as a journalist … for quite a while. … But this [book] was the thing that was always in the back of my mind. Like, this was the thing that a lot of that was in service of. Just becoming better at describing a song or describing the look of someone's face—these were all things that I implicitly understood as skills I needed to acquire. ... It is sort of an origin story for why I got so obsessive about writing.”
Show notes:
- @huahsu
- byhuahsu.com
- Hsu on Longform
- Hsu on Longform Podcast
- Hsu's New Yorker archive
- 03:00 A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific (Harvard University Press • 2016)
- 30:00 "Randall Park Breaks Out of Character" (New Yorker • Feb 2023)
- 33:00 Shortcomings (Adrian Tomine • Drawn & Quarterly • 2007)
- 39:00 "What Conversation Can Do For Us" (New Yorker • Mar 2023)
- 39:00 "J. Crew and the Paradoxes of Prep" (New Yorker • Mar 2023)
- 39:00 "The Many Afterlives of Vincent Chin" (New Yorker • Jun 2022)
- 39:00 "How Wayne Wang Faces Failure" (New Yorker • Jun 2022)
- 39:00 "Maxine Hong Kingston’s Genre-Defying Life and Work" (New Yorker • Jun 2020)
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45 min - Rerun: #528 Roxanna Asgarian (Mar 2023)
Roxanna Asgarian is the author of We Were Once a Family: A Story of Love, Death, and Child Removal in America.
“Every once in a while, I'll have someone just freak out at me. And it keeps you honest, in a way, because they don't owe you anything. People don't owe you anything as a journalist. ... But everyone reacts to trauma differently and some people really do want to talk about it. And I think the families in this book really wanted to talk about it and it felt like no one was even paying attention to them.”
Show notes:
- @strawburriez
- Asgarian's Texas Tribune archive
We Were Once a Family: A Story of Love, Death, and Child Removal in America (Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2023)- 12:00 "Child in viral Portland police hug photo missing, 5 family members dead after California cliff crash" (Shane Dixon Kavanaugh • The Oregonian • Mar 2018)
- 12:00 "Devonte Hart family crash: Sarah Hart sent alarming 3 a.m. text to friend ... then silence" (Shane Dixon Kavanaugh • The Oregonian • Apr 2018)
- 13:00 "Devonte Hart family crash: 'It's just devastating,' says aunt who fought for custody" (Roxanna Asgarian and Shane Dixon Kavanaugh • The Oregonian • Apr 2018)
- 34:00 "Devonte Hart's biological mom: They gave my kids 'to monsters'" (The Oregonian • Apr 2018)
- 45:00 "Before Children’s Grisly Deaths, A Family Fought for Them and Lost" (The Appeal • Jul 2018)
- 45:00 "A Mother Grapples with an Adoption that Led to Deaths" (The Appeal • Feb 2019)
- 45:00 "His siblings were killed by their adoptive mother. He was left in foster care to suffer a more common fate." (Washington Post • Dec 2019)
- 46:00 Broken Harts (Glamour and HowStuffWorks • 2018)
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59 min - Episode 562: Daisy Alioto
Daisy Alioto is a journalist and the CEO of Dirt Media.
“I don't think I was ever super precious about my writing, but if I was, I'm zero percent precious about it now. Every time I write for Dirt, it saves the company money. ... Nothing will make you sit down and write 800 words in 20 minutes than just needing to get it done. And that is a change that I've seen in myself. I would encourage everyone to be less precious about their writing.”
Show notes:
- daisyalioto.com
- 00:00 Dirt
- 09:00 "Marie Colvin’s Private War" (Marie Brenner • Vanity Fair • Jul 2012)
- 09:00 A Private War (Acacia Filmed Entertainment, Savvy Media Holdings, Thunder Road Pictures • 2018)
- 05:00 Airmail
- 11:00 "Pretend it’s a living" (Dirt • Jan 2021)
- 15:00 Prune
- 16:00 Hung Up (Hunter Harris)
- 16:00 Maybe Baby (Hayley Nahman)
- 16:00 Today in Tabs (Rusty Foster)
- 16:00 Blackbird Spyplane (Jonah Weiner and Erin Wylie)
- 16:00 Singal-Minded (Jesse Singal)
- 17:00 "The Complete History & Strategy of LVMH" (Acquired • Feb 2023)
- 24:00 "Grizzly man" (Amelia K. • Dirt • Jun 2023)
- 24:00 "The Question of U" (Amelia K. • Dirt • Nov 2023)
- 25:00 "Diary of a chess tournament" (Akram Herrak • Dirt • Nov 2023)
- 25:00 "The sound of your voice" (Joann Plockova • Dirt • Nov 2023)
- 25:00 "For the love of chickens" (Tove Danovich • Dirt • Sep 2023)
- 26:00 "Bad waitress" (Becca Schuh • Dirt • Jun 2023)
- 28:00 "Užupis Utopia" (Playboy • Dec 2019)
- 35:00 Someone Who Isn’t Me (Geoff Rickly • Rose Books • 2023)
- 37:00 Fragantica
- 37:00 "Bottle Elizabeth Taylor" (Daisy Alioto • Dirt • Jun 2023)
- 39:00 The Ugly History of Beautiful Things: Essays on Desire and Consumption (Katy Kelleher • Simon & Schuster • 2023)
- 41:00 Scent + Song (Vivian Medithi)
- 44:00 Axios
- 44:00 The Information
- 44:00 Punchbowl News
- 44:00 The Ankler
- 44:00 Semafor
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47 min - Episode 561: Ian Coss
Ian Coss is a journalist, audio producer, and composer. He is the host of Forever is a Long Time and The Big Dig.
“One thing that I really carried with me in making the show is a belief that bureaucracy is interesting. And that once you get through the jargon and wonky sounding stuff … beyond that it’s all just human drama.”
Show notes:
- @ian_coss
- iancoss.com
- 32:00 Isabel Hibbard’s website
- 33:00 Forever is a Long Time (PRX • 2021)
- 37:00 Lacy Roberts’ website
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49 min - Episode 560: Mosi Secret
Mosi Secret has written for ProPublica, The New York Times Magazine, and GQ. His new podcast is Radical.
“I think this story made me call on parts of myself that are not journalistic because I don’t really think that’s the way we’re going to get out of this at this point in my life. I think that it takes a more radical reimagining of who we are as human beings, the ways in which we’re connected, and what we owe to each other. And that’s not a reporting thing—that’s a ‘who are you’ kind of thing.”
Show notes:
- mosisecret.com
- Secret on Longform
- Secret’s New York Times archive
- 10:00 “Stolen Youth: How Durham's Criminal Justice System Sent Erick Daniels to Prison Based on the Shape of His Eyebrows” (INDYWeek • May 2007)
- 18:00 “On the Brink in Brownsville” (New York Times Magazine • May 2014)
- 21:00 “‘The Way to Survive It Was to Make A’s’” (New York Times Magazine • September 2017)
- 23:00 Johnny Kauffman’s website
- 28:00 “Having a Drink With Mosi Secret, the New York Times’ First-Ever Sin and Vice Reporter” (Joe Coscarelli • New York Magazine • June 2014)
- 29:00 “Behind the Red Door” (New York Times • May 2014)
- 38:00 “The Real 'CSI': How America’s Patchwork System of Death Investigations Puts the Living at Risk” (A.C. Thompson • ProPublica • Feb 2011)
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47 min - Rerun: #460 Mary Roach (Oct 2021)
Mary Roach is the author of seven nonfiction books, including Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law.
"In these realms of the taboo, there's a tremendous amount of material that is really interesting, but that people have stayed away from. ... I'm kind of a bottom feeder. It's down there on the bottom where people don't want to go. But if that's what it takes to find interesting, new material, I'm fine with it. I don't care. I'm not easily grossed out. I don't feel that there's any reason why we shouldn't look at this. And over time, I started to feel that ... the taboo was preventing people from having conversations that it would be healthy to have."
Show notes:
- @mary_roach
- maryroach.net
- Roach on Longform
- 00:00 Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law (W.W. Norton • 2021)
- 01:00 Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers (W.W. Norton • 2003)
- 01:00 Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex (W.W. Norton • 2008)
- 01:00 Packing for Mars: The Curious Science of Life in the Void (W.W. Norton • 2010)
- 01:00 Gulp: Adventures on the Alimentary Canal (W.W. Norton • 2014)
- 02:00 "Cute Inc." (Wired • Dec 1999)
- 12:00 Roach's Salon archive
- 46:00 "Hot Seat" (Discover • Mar 1998)
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59 min - Episode 559: Craig Mod
Craig Mod is a writer and photographer who has two newsletters, Roden and Ridgeline. His new book is Things Become Other Things.
“There'll be days where … I’m doing a walk and I'll just be like, I don't know what is going to move me today. And then out of the blue, there'll be this small interaction that when you really pay attention to it, it contains kind of this universe of kindness and patience that you otherwise pass by or ignore. If you're in the general mode of looking at things and then being able to take that experience and try to transmute it into an essay for the evening and send it out, it just develops your eye. You just start being able to look more and more and more closely.”
Show notes:
- craigmod.com
Things Become Other Things (Fine art edition • 2023 // Hardcover edition • Random House • 2025)Roden (Newsletter)Ridgeline (Newsletter)- 1:00 Mod on Longform Podcast
- 6:30 Koya Bound: Eight Days on the Kumano Kodō (with Dan Rubin • PRE/POST • 2016)
- 16:00 Kiiiiiiiiiiiiii
- 16:00 Special Projects (Newsletter)
- 20:00 Kissa by Kissa (2020)
- 31:00 Pachinko Road (Pop Up Newsletter)
- 32:00 "I Walked 600 Miles Across Japan for Pizza Toast" (Eater • Dec 2019)
- 32:00 "The Glorious, Almost-Disconnected Boredom of My Walk in Japan" (Wired • May 2019)
- 45:00 Longform Podcast #533: Hua Hsu (May 2023)
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