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  • Rerun: #512 Audie Cornish (Nov 2022)

    Audie Cornish, the former host NPR’s All Things Considered, is an anchor and correspondent for CNN. Her podcast is The Assignment.

    “I think there is journalism inherent in an interview. Like the interview itself should be considered a piece of journalism. It isn't always. Sometimes the vibe is that it’s a little window dressing or that it's personality driven and I don't subscribe to that. I think that it has its own journalism. It's my journalism.”

    Show notes:

    • @AudieCornish
    • Cornish's NPR archive
    • 01:00 The Assignment (CNN Audio • 2022)
    • 25:00 "Letters: 'Music Curator' Diplo" (NPR • Jun 2012)
    • 36:00 Cornish’s Twitter thread (Jan 2022)
    • 43:00 Serial (Serial Productions)
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      56 min
    • Episode 548: Susan Burton

      Susan Burton is an editor at This American Life, the author of the memoir Empty, and the host of the podcast The Retrievals.

      “I know I have much more anger than I reveal, and I don’t think that’s uncommon. Especially for women. There’s been a lot of attention to that in recent years—the anger of women, how it’s expressed and not expressed. But I think that among the things I’ve stifled for years are just my true feelings, and I’ve always wanted to be close to people and to be intimate with people, and have often felt that I have trouble making myself known or being known or being understood. And so...it felt good to be known.”

      Show notes:

      • @burtonsusan
      • susanburton.net
      • Burton on Longform
      • Burton’s This American Life archive
      • 01:00 “In The Event of an Emergency, Put Your Sister in an Upright Position” (Ira Glass • This American Life • Jan 2001)
      • 05:00 Empty (Random House • 2020)
      • 06:00 “Secrets” (This American Life • Feb 2021)
      • 39:00 “Terry Gross and the Art of Opening Up” (New York Times • Oct 2015)
      • 42:00 “From 'Empty' To 'Satisfied': Author Traces A Hunger That Food Can't Fix” (Terry Gross • NPR • June 2020)
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        47 min
      • Episode 547: Jamie Loftus

        Jamie Loftus is a comedian, writer, and podcaster. Her new book is Raw Dog: The Naked Truth About Hot Dogs.

        “Comedy has been super helpful to me because it's so based on failing every night sometimes that I wasn't afraid of failure in the same way because it's just like, Well, that's going to happen to me at some point this week. Why not in this format?”

        Show notes:

        • jamieloftus.xyz
        • 00:00 Lolita Podcast (iHeartRadio • 2020-21)
        • 01:00 Aack Cast! (iHeartRadio • 2021)
        • 01:00 My Year in Mensa (iHeartRadio • 2020)
        • 01:00 Ghost Church (iHeartRadio • 2022)
        • 01:00 Raw Dog: The Naked Truth About Hot Dogs (Forge Books • 2023)
        • 10:00 Sarah Marshall on Longform Podcast
        • 14:00 "Dolores Onstage" (iHeartRadio • Dec 2020)
        • 19:00 The Bechdel Cast (Caitlin Durante and Jamie Loftus • iHeartRadio)
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          58 min
        • Episode 546: Javier Zamora

          Javier Zamora is the author of Unaccompanied, a poetry collection, and Solito, a memoir.

          “There was something that I felt eating away at me, which made me a very angry and volatile teenager. And I think I was an angry teenager because I had this trauma that nobody around me could talk about, and that I didn't have the right therapist to help me unpack. So the cheapest thing that I had was poetry.”

          Show notes:

          • @jzsalvipoet
          • javierzamora.net
          • 03:00 “Reading Neruda and Learning to Heal My Diasporic Wounds” (Lit Hub • April 2019)
          • 18:00 Krik? Krak! (Edwidge Danticat • Soho Press • 2015)
          • 31:00 franciscocantu.us
          • 37:00 The Beast: Riding the Rails and Dodging Narcos on the Migrant Trail (Óscar Martínez • Verso Books • 2013)
          • 42:00 “Zamora: It’s time for the Pulitzer Prize for literature to accept noncitizens” (Los Angeles Times • July 2023)
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            1 hr
          • Episode 545: Jennifer Senior

            Jennifer Senior is a staff writer for The Atlantic. Her article ”What Bobby McIlvaine Left Behind” won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for Feature Writing. Her most recent article is ”The Ones We Sent Away.”

            “I'm at the point where I'm only thinking about the big questions and the difficulty of being a human as what matter most. That's what I want to keep focusing on. Our common frailties, our common bonds, our common difficulties. Because clearly we are not going to bond politically as a nation, right? … But we can bond over our kids with disabilities. About the fact that we grieve, that we love, that we lose people. That we have friends that we love, friends that we hate. We have friendships that we miss, we have friendships that we can't live without.”

            Show notes:

            • jennifersenior.net
            • Jennifer Senior on Longform
            • Jennifer Senior on Longform Podcast
            • 00:00 "What Bobby McIlvaine Left Behind" (Atlantic • Aug 2021)
            • 01:00 On Grief (Atlantic Editions • 2023)
            • 01:00 "The Ones We Sent Away" (Atlantic • Aug 2023)
            • 02:00 All Joy and No Fun: The Paradox of Modern Parenthood (Ecco • 2014)
            • 03:00 The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma (Bessel Van Der Kolk • Penguin • 2015)
            • 03:00 Senior's New York Magazine archive
            • 04:00 Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End (Atul Gawande • Picador • 2017)
            • 05:00 Senior's New York Times archive
            • 12:00 Unequal Childhoods: Class, Race, and Family Life (Annette Lareau • University of California Press • 2011)
            • 17:00 Heavyweight (Jonathan Goldstein • Gimlet)
            • 18:00 "#25 Becky and Jo" (Jonathan Goldstein • Gimlet • Oct 2019)
            • 18:00 "#2 Gregor" (Jonathan Goldstein • Gimlet • Sep 2016)
            • 28:00 "It’s Your Friends Who Break Your Heart" (Atlantic • Feb 2022)
            • 42:00 Patient H.M. (Luke Dittrich • Random House • 2017)
            • 47:00 "What Not to Ask Me About My Long COVID" (Atlantic • Feb 2023)
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              55 min
            • Episode 544: Casey Newton and Kevin Roose

              Casey Newton writes the Platformer newsletter. Kevin Roose is a technology columnist for The New York Times. Together they co-host the podcast Hard Fork.

              CN: “People actually like to be a little bit confused. They like listening to things where people are talking about things they don’t quite understand, which was very counterintuitive to me. I think a lot of editor-types would scoff at, but I’ve come around.”

              KR: “We can revisit subjects and we do. We can change our minds. Print pieces feel so permanent, they feel so definitive. Podcasts, we can just sort of say, ‘I don't know what to make of this, ask me again in a month.’”

              Show notes:

              • @CaseyNewton
              • @kevinroose
              • cnewton.org
              • kevinroose.com
              • Newton on Longform
              • Roose on Longform
              • Longorm Podcast #337: Casey Newton
              • Longform Podcast #81: Kevin Roose
              • Newton and Roose’s Hard Fork archive
              • Newton’s Platformer archive
              • Roose’s New York Times archive
              • 3:00 Newton’s Verge archive
              • 7:00 “Elon’s X Machina, Crypto Orbs, and a Visit to Google’s Robot Lab” (Newton and Roose • New York Times • July 2023)
              • 12:00 Huberman Lab (Andrew Huberman • Huberman Lab • 2023)
              • 14:00 Rabbit Hole (Roose • New York Times • 2020)
              • 25:00 Futureproof (Roose • Random House • 2022)
              • 29:00 “ChatGPT Transforms a Classroom and Is ‘M3GAN’ Real?” (Newton and Roose • New York Times • Jan 2023)
              • 29:00 “Dario Amodei, C.E.O. of Anthropic, on the Paradoxes of A.I. Safety and Netflix’s ‘Deep Fake Love Story’” (Newton and Roose • New York Times • July 2023)
              • 31:00 “Google C.E.O. Sundar Pichai on Bard, A.I. ‘Whiplash’ and Competing with ChatGPT” (Newton and Roose • New York Times • March 2023)
              • 31:00 “Mr. Altman Goes to Washington and Casey Goes on This American Life” (Newton and Roose • New York Times • May 2023)
              • 44:00 “Aided by A.I. Language Models, Google’s Robots Are Getting Smart” (Roose • New York Times • July 2023)
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                1 hr
              • Episode 543: Jeff Goodell

                Jeff Goodell is a climate change writer for Rolling Stone and the author of seven books. His new book is The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched Planet.

                “I would not have said this even five years ago, but I have really come to see this now as a crime story. This is a kind of looting of the atmosphere of the earth, siphoning off resources and grossly profiting off of that at the expense of many other people—billions of people—on this planet. And I understand that’s a big thing to say, but I think it’s just pretty obviously true. … I don’t mean that personally that each one of them personally is a criminal. We are all complicit in this.”

                Show notes:

                • @jeffgoodell
                • jeffgoodellwriter.com
                • Goodell on Longform
                • Goodell’s Rolling Stone archive
                • 11:00 “Who’s a Hero Now?” (New York Times Magazine • July 2003)
                • 15:00 The Water Will Come (Back Bay Books • 2018)
                • 15:00 Big Coal (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt • 2006)
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                  49 min
                • Episode 542: Peter Shamshiri

                  Peter Shamshiri is a lawyer and co-host of the podcast 5-4.

                  “Because of the nature of law, I think a lot of journalists find it hard to take a position—or to sort of tip their hand about what they actually believe—because so much of the discourse around how law should operate is about neutrality and the general perspective that the law is non-partisan, non-ideological. I think the result is media coverage that is particularly lacking in those regards. And that's where we swoop in.”

                  Show notes:

                  • @The_Law_Boy
                  • 5-4 (Prologue Projects)
                  • 02:00 "Writer Evan Ratliff Tried to Vanish: Here's What Happened" (Evan Ratliff • Wired • Nov 2009)
                  • 04:00 Mic Dicta
                  • 14:00 "Bush v. Gore" (Prologue Projects • Feb 2020)
                  • 14:00 "Emergency Episode: RNC v. DNC" (Prologue Projects • Apr 2020)
                  • 15:00 "Emergency Episode: Roe Is Overturned" (Prologue Projects • Jun 2022)
                  • 16:00 "The Thomas/Crow Affair" (Prologue Projects • Apr 2023)
                  • 25:00 "The Hosts of ‘5-4’ Never Trusted the Supreme Court" (Reggie Ugwu • New York Times • Jul 2022)
                  • 37:00 Slow Burn (Prologue Projects)
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                    48 min
                  • Episode 541: Donovan X. Ramsey

                    Donovan X. Ramsey is a journalist and author of the new book When Crack Was King: A People’s History of a Misunderstood Era.

                    “I've only ever wanted to write about Black people—and that includes the elements of our lives that are difficult. I’ve always prided myself on being able to metabolize that information and not really be harmed by it. And this book really taught me that writing and processing is not just something that you do in your head. That the information does go through you as you're trying to make sense of it. And it's not happening to you, right? It's not like a direct form of PTSD that you have, but you do experience some trauma when you open up your imagination in that way.”

                    Show notes:

                    • @donovanxramsey
                    • donovanxramsey.com
                    • Ramsey on Longform Podcast
                    • When Crack Was King: A People’s History of a Misunderstood Era (One World • 2023)
                    • 02:00 Ramsey's Los Angeles Times archive
                    • 05:00 The Warmth of Other Suns (Isabel Wilkerson • Vintage • 2011)
                    • 35:00 "America’s ‘crack’ plague has roots in Nicaragua war" (Gary Webb • San Jose Mercury News • Aug 1996)
                    • 35:00 "Shadowy origins of ‘crack’ epidemic" (Gary Webb • San Jose Mercury News • Aug 1996)
                    • 35:00 "War on drugs has unequal impact on black Americans" (Gary Webb • San Jose Mercury News • Aug 1996)
                    • 45:00 The 1619 Project (Nikole Hannah-Jones et al. • New York Times • 2019)
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                      54 min
                    • Rerun: #531 David Grann (Apr 2023)

                      David Grann is a staff writer for The New Yorker. His latest book is The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder.

                      “I became very haunted by the stories that [nations] don't tell. Nations and empires preserve their powers not only by the stories they tell, but also by the stories they leave out. … Early in my career, if I came across the silences in a story, I might not have highlighted them, because I thought, Well, there's nothing to tell there. And now I try to let the silences speak.”

                      Show notes:

                      • @DavidGrann
                      • davidgrann.com
                      • Grann on Longform
                      • Grann on Longform Podcast #3
                      • Grann on Longform Podcast #241
                      • Grann on Longform Podcast #329
                      • Grann's New Yorker archive
                      • 01:00 The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder (Doubleday • 2023)
                      • 02:00 Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI (Doubleday • 2017)
                      • 28:00 The White Darkness (Doubleday • 2018)
                      • 61:00 Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese • Appian Way, Apple Studios • 2023)
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