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- Episode 540: Heidi Blake
Heidi Blake is a writer for The New Yorker and the author of two books, From Russia with Blood: The Kremlin's Ruthless Assassination Program and Vladimir Putin's Secret War on the West and The Ugly Game: The Corruption of FIFA and the Qatari Plot to Buy the World Cup, with Jonathan Calvert. Her latest article is “The Fugitive Princess of Dubai.”
“I definitely feel as an investigative reporter that I feel very driven by my own capacity for shock and outrage and genuinely feeling like this is unbelievable. And that kind of makes me want to keep digging. And once I stop feeling that on any given topic, I lose interest. And so I’ve always been a generalist, and I just kind of rove from one topic to the next. I’m always finding myself in new territory where I know absolutely nothing about the thing I’m starting to dig into and have to try and play catch up and get my head around something new.”
Show notes:
- @heidiblake
- 24:00 From Russia with Blood (Mulholland Books • 2020)
- 24:00 Once Upon a Time in Londongrad (Buzzfeed Studios • 2022)
- 33:00 “David Cameron’s communication director in tax fraud investigation” (The Daily Telegraph • May 2011)
- 37:00 The Ugly Game (Blake and Jonathan Calvert • Scribner • 2017)
- 40:00 Blake's Buzzfeed News archive
- 42:00 “This Tory Donor Was Secretly Filmed Dropping Cash-Stuffed Rucksacks At Post Offices” (Blake, Michael Gillard, Tom Warren, Jane Bradley, and Richard Holmes • Buzzfeed News • Oct 2015)
- 45:00 “Friends of the Court” (Justin Elliott, Joshua Kaplan, and Alex Mierjeski • ProPublica • 2023)
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49 min - Episode 539: Mitchell Prothero
Mitchell Prothero covers intelligence and crime for Vice News. His new podcast with Project Brazen is Gateway: Cocaine, Murder, and Dirty Money in Europe.
“I’m really interested in transnational networks—crime, intelligence. I’m fascinated by the gray. Like, when is something legal and when is something illegal? One thing with this Gateway project [was that] nobody could ever tell me that moment where money goes from absolutely being illegal to being legal.”
Show notes:
- @mitchprothero
- Prothero on Longform
- Prothero’s Vice archive
- 01:00 “Paintballing with Hezbollah” (Vice • March 2012)
- 01:00 “Inside the World of ISIS Investigations in Europe” (Buzzfeed News • Aug 2016)
- 36:00 “The Wild Story of the Psychic, the Sheikh and the $90 Million Diamond Heist” (Vice • June 2023)
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1 hr - Episode 538: Brittany Luse
Brittany Luse is the host of NPR’s It’s Been a Minute.
“One of the things I love about this job is everything is practice. I love it. It's like if a show is great and everyone loves it, you gotta put on another one. You just gotta do it again. And if the show didn't quite do what you'd hoped or set out to do in your mind and in your heart, you gotta do another one. I just love it. You can never feel too good and you can never feel too bad.”
Show notes:
- @bmluse
- 02:00 "#497: Sam Sanders" (Longform Podcast • Aug 2022)
- 02:00 "Kale-flavored Cheez-Its" (Sampler • Gimlet • Jun 2016)
- 03:00 It’s Been a Minute (NPR)
- 04:00 "Brittany goes to 'Couples Therapy;' Plus, why Hollywood might strike" (It’s Been a Minute • NPR • Apr 2023)
- 04:00 "Tina Turner's happy ending" (It’s Been a Minute • NPR • May 2023)
- 05:00 "Relationship Goals" (Sampler • Gimlet • Mar 2016)
- 12:00 Roald Dahl’s Matilda the Musical (Working Title Films • 2022)
- 24:00 The Nod (Gimlet)
- 25:00 "Whole Hog" (The Nod • Gimlet • Sep 2017)
- 27:00 "The Hairstons Part 1: Snakes on a Plantation" (The Nod • Gimlet • Dec 2017)
- 27:00 "The Hairstons Part 1: Diary of a Mad Black Cousin" (The Nod • Gimlet • Dec 2017)
- 29:00 "Hair, Laid" (The Nod • Gimlet • May 2018)
- 29:00 "I Want That Purple Stuff" (The Nod • Gimlet • Aug 2017)
- 29:00 "Big Freedia’s Bounce" (The Nod • Gimlet • Sep 2020)
- 29:00 "How to Show Up" (The Nod • Gimlet • Jun 2019)
- 32:00 For Colored Nerds (Eric Eddings and Brittany Luse)
- 42:00 "Quibi Is Shutting Down Barely Six Months After Going Live" (Benjamin Mullin, Joe Flint, Maureen Farrell • Wall Street Journal • Oct 2020)
- 44:00 "Why Am I Watching Married At First Sight Instead of Planning My Wedding?" (Harper’s Bazaar • May 2021)
- 46:00 "The Hard-To-Take But Smart Relationship Advice Beyoncé Has Given Us" (Refinery29 • Apr 2016)
- 49:00 "The Fiction of the Color Line" (Vulture • Jan 2021)
- 53:00 "Death of Adulthood" (For Colored Nerds • 2014)
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1 hr 2 min - Episode 537: Brady Dale
Brady Dale covers cryptocurrency for Axios. His new book is SBF: How The FTX Bankruptcy Unwound Crypto's Very Bad Good Guy.
“I am a fast writer. I’ve always been fast. I just sat down and did the math on it and I was like, If I can write 1,500 words a day, I can write this book. And I can do that.”
Show notes:
- @BradyDale
- bradydale.com
- Dale's Axios archive
- 00:00 SBF: How The FTX Bankruptcy Unwound Crypto's Very Bad Good Guy (Wiley • 2023)
- 09:00 Dale's Observer archive
- 09:00 Dale's CoinDesk archive
- 14:00 Money: The True Story of a Made-Up Thing (Jacob Goldstein • Hachette • 2020)
- 16:00 Coin Talk (Aaron Lammer and Jay Caspian Kang)
- 16:00 Techmeme Ride Home (Ride Home Media)
- 24:00 "#127: Sam Bankman-Fried on taking a high-risk approach to crypto and doing good" (80,000 Hours • Apr 2022)
- 28:00 Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon (Michael Lewis • Norton • 2023)
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44 min - Episode 536: Lisa Belkin
Lisa Belkin is a journalist and the author of four books. Her latest is Genealogy of a Murder: Four Generations, Three Families, One Fateful Night.
“I didn’t experience it as luck. It—and this is going to be a little woo woo—but it really felt like these people had been sitting there for 100 years saying, Well, it took you long enough, because everything just fit together. I didn’t have to manipulate anything.”
Show notes:
- @lisabelkin
- lisabelkin.com
- Lisa Belkin on Longform
- Belkin’s New York Times archive
- Belkin’s Yahoo News archive
- Belkin’s HuffPost archive
- 02:00 “The Odds of That” (The New York Times Magazine • Aug 2002)
- 09:00 Show Me a Hero (Hachette Book Group • 1999)
- 09:00 Show Me a Hero (David Simon • HBO • 2015)
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46 min - Episode 535: Amy Chozick
Amy Chozick is an author, journalist, executive producer, and showrunner. Her latest feature for The New York Times is ”Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth.”
“The subject thought it was a hit job. Twitter thought it was a puff piece. I don’t know, guys. … I want to explain to people what it feels like to be around someone who you know you shouldn’t believe, but you can’t help believing them because this is what their personality is like when you’re with them.”
Show notes:
- @amychozick
- amychozick.com
- Chozick on Longform
- Chozick's New York Times archive
- 00:00 "Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth" (New York Times • May 2023)
- 02:00 The Dropout (ABC Audio • 2019)
- 06:00 "You Know the Lorena Bobbitt Story. But Not All of It." (New York Times • Jan 2019)
- 24:00 Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup (John Carreyou • Vintage • 2020)
- 49:00 The Dropout (Hulu • 2022)
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57 min - Episode 534: Tracy Kidder
Tracy Kidder is the author of eleven books, including The Soul of a New Machine and Mountains Beyond Mountains. His latest is Rough Sleepers.
“I do think it’s an interesting challenge to try to write about virtue, with all that’s always mixed with it. Some writers have said it’s virtually impossible … but it’s not impossible. … People who are really trying, struggling against the odds, I think they’re worth writing about.”
Show notes:
- tracykidder.com
- Kidder on Longform
- Kidder’s Atlantic archive
- 01:00 “‘You Have to Learn to Listen’: How a Doctor Cares for Boston’s Homeless” (The New York Times • Jan 2023)
- 06:00 “The Good Doctor” (New Yorker • July 2000)
- 06:00 Mountains Beyond Mountains (Random House • 2009)
- 19:00 Good Prose (Kidder and Richard Todd • Random House • 2013)
- 21:00 House (Houghton Mifflin • 1985)
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39 min - Episode 533: Hua Hsu
Hua Hsu is a staff writer for The New Yorker. His book Stay True won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize for memoir.
“I've worked as a journalist … for quite a while. … But this [book] was the thing that was always in the back of my mind. Like, this was the thing that a lot of that was in service of. Just becoming better at describing a song or describing the look of someone's face—these were all things that I implicitly understood as skills I needed to acquire. ... It is sort of an origin story for why I got so obsessive about writing.”
Show notes:
- @huahsu
- byhuahsu.com
- Hsu on Longform
- Hsu on Longform Podcast
- Hsu's New Yorker archive
- 03:00 A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific (Harvard University Press • 2016)
- 30:00 "Randall Park Breaks Out of Character" (New Yorker • Feb 2023)
- 33:00 Shortcomings (Adrian Tomine • Drawn & Quarterly • 2007)
- 39:00 "What Conversation Can Do For Us" (New Yorker • Mar 2023)
- 39:00 "J. Crew and the Paradoxes of Prep" (New Yorker • Mar 2023)
- 39:00 "The Many Afterlives of Vincent Chin" (New Yorker • Jun 2022)
- 39:00 "How Wayne Wang Faces Failure" (New Yorker • Jun 2022)
- 39:00 "Maxine Hong Kingston’s Genre-Defying Life and Work" (New Yorker • Jun 2020)
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46 min - Episode 532: Kevin Kelly
Kevin Kelly is one of the founding editors of Wired, where his current title is Senior Maverick. His new book is Excellent Advice for Living: Wisdom I'd Known Earlier.
“I never wrote a book because I wanted to do a good deed. I just wanted to tell a good story.”
Show notes:
- @kevin2kelly
- kk.org
- Kelly on Longform
- Longform Podcast #376: Kevin Kelly
- Kelly’s Wired Magazine archive
- 13:00 The Inevitable (Penguin Books • 2017)
- 14:00 Vanishing Asia (Publishers Group West • 2021)
- 22:00 @MrBeast on TikTok
- 26:00 @KevinKelly on YouTube
- 31:00 @PessimistsArc on Twitter
- 39:00 “John Carmack: Doom, Quake, VR, AGI, Programming, Video Games, and Rockets” (Lex Fridman • Lex Fridman Podcast • Aug 2022)
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48 min - Polk Award Winners: Terrence McCoy
Terrence McCoy is The Washington Post's Rio de Janeiro Bureau Chief. He won the George Polk award for his series "The Amazon, Undone" on the illegal and often violent exploitation of the rainforest.
“When I first got to Brazil, the Amazon was an arena of mystique. But after you spend a fair amount of time in the Amazon, it becomes quite clear what the struggle is—and how human that struggle is.”
This is the last in a week-long series of conversations with winners of this year's George Polk Awards in Journalism.
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