Lucid Lab Podcast

A huge thank you to our listeners for sticking it out with us for over two years while we figure out this podcast life! We are taking a short break while we both transition through some pivotal changes in our lives. But we will not leave you empty-handed. We are bringing back some ancient episodes that have fallen off (aged out) of certain platforms. They are remastered and better for your ears! First up…The Grimm Brothers!

Snow White. Hansel and Gretel. Puss in Boots. Rapunzel. Cinderella. Rumpelstiltskin. Little Red Riding Hood.

What do all these famous tales have in common? Okay, books and movies, yes… but let’s go back in time. Way back. These fairy tales had a dark beginning, but we wouldn’t have them today if it weren’t for two very ambitious and determined brothers. This week, Jessica takes us down the windy path of the Brothers Grimm and reads us a few stories that you won’t see put out by Disney anytime soon. 

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Sources:

Denecke, L. (2023, May 19). The Göttingen years of the Brothers Grimm. Britannica. Brothers Grimm - German Mythology, Civil Responsibility, and Language | Britannica

Dorothea Grimm - Wikipedia

Luu, C. (2018, May 2). The Fairytale Language of the Brothers Grimm. JStor Daily. The Fairytale Language of the Brothers Grimm - JSTOR Daily

Norberg, J. (2022). The Brothers Grimm and the Making of German Nationalism. In The Brothers Grimm and the Making of German Nationalism (pp. I-Ii). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

Grimmstories.com. (n.d.). Grimms’ Fairy Tales: The complete fairy tales of the brothers grimm. Grimms' Fairy Tales (grimmstories.com)

Listen now for a quick message from Kendra and Jessica and in the meantime, Stay So Very Lucid!

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Listen now for a quick message from Kendra and Jessica...and in the meantime, Stay Lucid!

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Hey Lab Rats! It's time for the 14th installment of our Lab Reports. This week seems to be Colorado themed. We share a listener story of a UFO encounter in Black Canyon of the Gunnison followed by Kendra's mini episode about John List. He is one of the most famous family annihilator cases. John murdered his entire family and got away with it for 18 years before he was caught by a Colorado neighbor. 

Jessica's mini episode is the sad story of Peggy Beck, a 16-year-old girl scout that was savagely murdered and authorities are still looking for the murderer over 50 years later. 

Join us now for this special episode and be sure to send in your personal stories to be highlighted on a future Lab Reports!

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Sources:

[Unresolved Murder] Girl Scout Camp: Part 1 – The Unsolved Colorado Murder of Margaret “Peggy” Beck : r/UnresolvedMysteries

The saga of Mad Dog Sherbondy — one of Eagle County’s most infamous murderers | SummitDaily.com

Dec 11, 1963, page 23 - Greeley Daily Tribune at Newspapers.com

Famous murders that remain unsolved

Margaret “Peggy” Beck (Aug 1963) — Metro Denver Crime Stoppers

1963 cold case murder of Margaret "Peggy" Beck solved through DNA testing

Margaret ‘Peggy’ Beck Murder: Cold Case Of Girl Scout Murdered Solved | Crime News

Genealogy leads to 81-year-old suspect in 1963 cold case murder near Deckers | FOX31 Denver

Sharkey, Joe. Death Sentence: The Inside Story of the John List Murders. 2016. Open Road Integrated. 

The Poltergeist movie, released in the early 1980s was the one to get Kendra hooked on Horror movies. In this week's episode, we explore the real-world case that inspired Stephen Spielberg to create this movie in the first place.

Popper the Poltergeist, aptly named based on how the spirit presented itself, was active in the 1950s on Long Island at the Hermann household. Spawning on a seemingly random day, Popper would wreak havoc on the family for about a month and then disappear forever. This would be the first time paranormal activity would be caught on camera and to this day, there isn't really an explanation on what was happening in that house.

Listen now for all of the details around this mischievous Poltergeist!

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Sources:

POPPER THE POLTERGEIST — American Hauntings

The ‘Poltergeist’ Curse: Inside the Mysterious Cast Deaths and Set Oddities

Poltergeists - Everything You Need to Know | Paranormal Authority

When beloved children's author Helen Bailey vanished in 2016, the world was gripped by the mystery. But beneath the surface was a chilling truth: her fiancé, Ian Stewart, was not only her killer, but had already taken another life years before. In this episode, we unravel the shocking story of Ian Stewart - a man who murdered his first wife, Diane Stewart, in 2010, staging her death as a tragic medical incident, only to be unmasked as a double killer years later.

We follow the investigation that first treated Diane Stewart’s sudden death as epilepsy-related, and how, after Helen Bailey’s body and that of her loyal dachshund, Boris, were found hidden in a cesspit, police began to see a deadly pattern.

Join us as we examine how Stewart’s deception fooled those closest to him, the crucial evidence that finally brought him to justice, and the legacy of two women whose lives, and a beloved dog, were cruelly stolen by a man they trusted.

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Sources:

Allen, F., Devlin, A., & Knox, P. (2018, August 22). Who Was Helen Bailey? How Was She Murdered by Ian Stewart and What Children’s Books Did She Write? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2589388/helen-bailey-death-murderer-ian-stewart-childrens-books/

Barrow, G. (2022, February 9). Family of Diane Stewart Pay Tribute to ‘Amazing Mum’ After Murder Trial Verdict. https://www.royston-crow.co.uk/news/obituaries/21989805.family-diane-stewart-pay-tribute-amazing-mum-murder-trial-verdict/

Bradbrook, K. & Shepka, P. (2022, February 2). Diane Stewart: How a Donated Brain Helped Convict a Double Killer. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-60233593

Camber, R., Sinmaz, E., & Robinson, M. (2016, July 11). Police Investigating Disappearance of Helen Bailey Arrest Fiance on Suspicion of Murder. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685026/Police-investigating-disappearance-children-s-author-arrest-man-55-suspicion-murder-disposing-body.html

Fruen, L. & Vonow, B. (2017, February 23). Ian Stewart Slammed by Judge for ‘Heinous’ Financially-Motivated Murder of Fiance Helen Bailey - As He Faces Death Behind Bars. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2934788/ian-stewart-helen-bailey-murder-jail-sentence/

Halford, J. (2017, February 22). Helen Bailey: A Life Shaped by Death. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-38505358

Helen Bailey. (n.d.). Helen Bailey - Wikipedia

Helen Bailey Death: Author ‘May Have Been Alive’ in Cesspit. (2017, January 11). https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-38583555

Hughes, J (Editor). (2023, February 10). Ian Stewart (Season 2, Episode 7). [TV Series Episode]. My Lover, My Killer. FirstLook TV.

Ian Stewart: Sons Granted £185k Confiscation Order. (2022, July 27). https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-62323848

Wild, B. (2022, January 20). Ian Stewart’s Sons Say ‘Devastated Father Was In Tears at Wife’s Death’. https://www.royston-crow.co.uk/news/21990662.ian-stewarts-sons-say-devastated-father-tears-wifes-death/

On our second Under the Microscope episode, we delve into two individual cases.

Kendra explores one of the most famous unsolved murders in DC history, that of Chandra Levy. Chandra disappeared in May 2001 and it would take them over a year to find out what happened to her. In the meantime, the media was more focused on the fact that she had an affair with a much older married congressman. This focus may have distracted the police and locating where Chandra's remains were eventually found. To this day, there are still no real clear answers on who violently killed Chandra Levy. 

Jessica shares a tragic story of a young woman, Abbi Winters, and how she lived through an inexplicable violent tragedy inflicted on her by her ex-husband and father of her young son. Abbi now speaks out about red flags and how to deal with an abusive relationship before it is too late. Listen now for all of the details!

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Sources:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/chandra-levy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Chandra_Levy

https://www.modbee.com/opinion/garth-stapley/article250961284.html

On February 13, 2017, two best friends—13-year-old Abigail Williams and 14-year-old Liberty German—set out for a walk along the Monon High Bridge in Delphi, Indiana. They never returned. What began as a quiet afternoon in a small Midwestern town quickly spiraled into one of the most high-profile unsolved murder cases in recent American history. 5 years later, police would arrest a local man, Richard Allen and charge him with the murders. But many believe there is more to the story and this guy may not actually be the killer. 

In this episode, we revisit the events of that day, the discovery that shocked the nation, and the now-infamous audio and video clip recovered from Libby’s phone—evidence that turned the entire country into amateur detectives. We’ll talk through the investigations, suspects, theories, the trial of Richard Allen and the questions that still remain eight years later. Listen now for all of the details!

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Sources:

The Delphi Murders — Unresolved

Murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German - Wikipedia

What is Odinism, and is it connected to the Delphi murders?

Newbound, Netta. The Delphi Murders: The Facts, The Theories, The Evidence, The Trial. 2024

Hendricks, Susan. Down the Hill: My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi. 2023. Hachette Books. 

HBO Max. Down the Hill: The Delphi Murders. 2020. Apple TV. Chasing Evil: The Delphi Murders. 2020

Apple TV. Chasing Evil: The Delphi Murders. 2020

Robert Maudsley is one of Britain’s most infamous and dangerous inmates. From a childhood marred by relentless abuse to a series of gruesome murders, Maudsley's life is a dark exploration of trauma, revenge, and justice. We look at how his early suffering shaped his violent path, earning him the chilling nicknames "Hannibal the Cannibal" and "The Brain Eater," despite false reports of cannibalism.

Robert became a serial killer behind bars. We discuss the four murders and explore the extreme measures taken to contain him—solitary confinement in a specially designed glass cell for over 46 years. Does prolonged isolation serve justice, or is it another layer of cruelty?

Join us as we dissect the mind and legacy of Robert Maudsley, a man whose story forces us to confront the thin line between justice and vengeance. 

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Armstrong, J., Preston, F., & Warburton, D. (2025, March 8). Monster Mansion’s Glass Box Serial Killer Robert Maudsley on Hunger Strike as Luxury Prison Item Taken Away. https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/monster-mansions-glass-box-serial-31158649

Annette, J., & O’Neill. (n.d.) Serial Killer Robert Maudsley ‘Buried Alive’ in Glass Cage Below Ground. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/serial-killer-robert-maudsley-buried-alive-in-glass-cage-below-ground/ar-AA1AZhOH?ocid=BingNewsSerp

B.2: The 1970s: The ‘meat rack’ and Playland Amusement Arcade. (n.d.). B.2: The 1970s | IICSA Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

Convicted Murderer Cleared of Sex Attack. (2006, July 5). Convicted murderer cleared of sex attack | Daily Mail Online

Robert Maudsley. (n.d.). Robert Maudsley - Wikipedia

Rodger, J. (2024, December 22). UK’s Most Dangerous Prisoner Locked in Underground Glass Box for 51st Christmas in Jail. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/uks-most-dangerous-prisoner-locked-30642119

What Happened at Nazareth House Orphanages? (2019, May 30). https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-48460746

This week Kendra explores a complex case from 1996. A mother, Darlie Routier, wakes up to a frightening scene at 2:30am to find her 2 young sons stabbed to death and suffering from her own injuries. Who broke into the house and committed such a violent act? 

Well, according to the police officers that investigated the scene, there was no intruder at all. Instead, they dialed in that it must have been Darlie, a mother who chose to murder her own children, fake injuries of her own and stage the murder scene in the middle of the night. Oh, and by the way, she did all of this while her husband and 8-month old baby slept right upstairs. 

Darlie Routier now sits on death row in Texas. Many believe she deserves to be executed because she is a child killer, the worst of the worst. Others believe she was judged harshly by a justice system that never looked at the possibility that it could have actually been an intruder that committed this horrific crime. 

Listen now for all of the details and decide for yourself what you think. Is Darlie guilty or innocent? 

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Sources:

Darlie Routier And The Real Story Behind The Murder Of Her Sons

Maybe Darlie Didn't Do It – Texas Monthly

Davis, W.G. Bloodstained Justice: The Darlie Routier Story. 2018. Diamondback Publishers International