In this conversation, Lucy Biggers (from The Free Press!) shares her journey from being a climate activist to questioning the mainstream climate narrative. She discusses the fear-driven messaging prevalent in the climate movement, the role of media in shaping public perception, and the importance of recognizing the positive developments in climate resilience.

Lucy emphasizes the value of fossil fuels in modern society and advocates for a more optimistic outlook on humanity's ability to adapt and innovate. She also critiques the ESG movement and the myth of the noble savage, highlighting the need for a balanced understanding of progress and environmentalism.

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