<p>Joel talks with Lucy, who's 28 years old. Lucy talks about her flight anxiety, about how her dad would use drugs in front of her when she was 12, and then about her dad's death when she was in college. At some points, Joel feels like he's going to cry. Lucy does cry. Then they talk about how much they both love to cry. Lucy is a role model.</p>

Joel talks with Lucy, who's 28 years old. Lucy talks about her flight anxiety, about how her dad would use drugs in front of her when she was 12, and then about her dad's death when she was in college. At some points, Joel feels like he's going to cry. Lucy does cry. Then they talk about how much they both love to cry. Lucy is a role model.

<p>Joel talks with Lucy, who's 28 years old. Lucy talks about her flight anxiety, about how her dad would use drugs in front of her when she was 12, and then about her dad's death when she was in college. At some points, Joel feels like he's going to cry. Lucy does cry. Then they talk about how much they both love to cry. Lucy is&nbsp;a role model.</p>

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A shame-free space where people talk about how they care for their mental and emotional health. Common topics include anxiety, depression, and mindfulness. No matter the story, it will be met with compassion. Engage with the show and host Joel Kutz online at http://darkplace.joelkutz.com

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are for informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. We are not doctors. For questions about your own health, please consult a medical professional.

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A shame-free space where people talk about how they care for their mental and emotional health. Common topics include anxiety, depression, and mindfulness. No matter the story, it will be met with compassion. Engage with the show and host Joel Kutz online at http://darkplace.joelkutz.com Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are for informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. We are not doctors. For questions about your own health, please consult a medical professional.

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