Penrith is starting to hover ominously behind the top 4 on the NRL ladder after notching a 6th straight win in round 20. Second rower Luke Garner (22:38) puts it down to a serious chat that the whole senior group had 6 or 7 weeks ago that decided training intensity had definitely dropped. Garner told Andrew Moore and the team that they've really stepped up their defensive effort but he couldn't throw too much light on his own playing future. Luke Lewis had a bit to say on the immediate future of Newcastle bound Eel Dylan Brown (32:11). Plus catch up on all the latest Rugby League news - and speculation - in MC's Hammertime (40:04).