The 50th EPISODE (!) of Making It Up features Hannah Mary McKinnon, who led a successful career in recruitment before quitting the corporate world in favor of writing. Her debut, Time After Time, was a rom-com but she has since transitioned to suspense novels. Of five, four are bestsellers and her seventh book and sixth thriller is scheduled for spring next year. Hannah’s latest thriller, Never Coming Home, released in May 2022 and is a book that Carter dubs “masterful.” 

Among other things, Carter and Hannah discuss the messages within novels, writing with incredible determination, and learning how to navigate the publishing industry. At the end of their conversation, they make up a thrilling scene beginning with a sentence from Carter’s own novel The Comfort of Black.