Julie Clark still tells people she's an elementary school teacher, which she is. But she's also the New York Times bestselling author of the 2020 breakout thriller The Last Flight.

Carter and Julie talk about working multiple jobs, the unpredictability of the publishing industry, and how to continuously become a better writer.

At the end of the conversation, they make up a surreal circus story using a sentence from The Beastly Beatitudes of Balthazar B, by J. P. Donleavy.

Connect with Carter at www.carterwilson.com

Connect with Julie at www.julieclarkauthor.com