Catalyst with Shayle Kann

Making sense of solar engineering


Listen Later

In some climate circles, solar geoengineering is akin to a swear word. Also known as solar radiation modification (SRM), it means deliberately modifying the earth’s atmosphere to reflect solar radiation. It provokes forceful pushback, because it’s unclear how it would affect the earth’s agriculture, ozone layer and ecosystems.

But it’s been attracting interest because it’s clear it would do one thing well: cool the planet.

If we’re not moving fast enough on emissions reductions and carbon removal to avoid 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming, could solar geoengineering, despite its risks, be less dangerous than a hotter world?

In this episode, Shayle talks to Dan Visioni, a climate modeler who studies solar geoengineering at Cornell University’s Sibley School of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering.

They discuss what solar geoengineering might look like in the real world. 

Stratospheric sulfate injections would mimic the effects of volcanic eruptions like Mount Pinatubo in 1991, which cooled the planet by 0.5 degrees Celsius in the following year. 

Marine cloud brightening would use salt aerosols to brighten a type of cloud that reflects solar radiation, a phenomenon already created by ocean-going ships.

They also cover cirrus cloud thinning and—straight out of a sci-fi movie—space mirrors.

They explore key questions, such as:

  • What do we know about the potential effects on ozone, precipitation and ecosystems? What do we need to research and what could we learn by testing?
  • Which could scale faster—Carbon dioxide removal or solar geoengineering? 
  • Solar geoengineering could cost a tiny fraction of the amount required to scale up CDR. Does that mean it could buy us time to draw down emissions more cheaply? Or does the relative affordability enable a rogue actor to deploy it without international collaboration?
  • And who gets to decide whether the world deploys solar geoengineering? Whose hand is on the thermostat, so to speak?
  • Links:

    • Nobel prize winner Paul Crutzen’s influential 2006 paper on stratospheric sulfur injection
    • A provocative New York Times Op-Ed promoting geoengineering from David Keith, professor of applied physics and public policy at Harvard who studies geoengineering
    • Catalyst is brought to you by Arcadia. Arcadia allows innovators, businesses and communities to break the fossil fuel monopoly through its technology platform, Arc. Join Arcadia’s mission and find out how you or your business can help turn a fully decarbonized grid into a reality at arca​dia​.com/​c​a​t​alyst.

      Catalyst is supported by Advanced Energy Economy. AEE is on the front lines of transforming policy that accelerates the move to 100 percent clean energy and electrified transportation in America. To learn how your business can play a key role in transforming policy and expanding markets, visit aee​.net/join.

      ...more
      View all episodesView all episodes
      Download on the App Store

      Catalyst with Shayle KannBy Latitude Media

      • 5
      • 5
      • 5
      • 5
      • 5

      5

      240 ratings


      More shows like Catalyst with Shayle Kann

      View all
      Climate One by Climate One from The Commonwealth Club

      Climate One

      559 Listeners

      Energy Gang by Wood Mackenzie

      Energy Gang

      1,252 Listeners

      Columbia Energy Exchange by Columbia University

      Columbia Energy Exchange

      385 Listeners

      Currents by Norton Rose Fulbright

      Currents

      124 Listeners

      Interchange Recharged by Wood Mackenzie

      Interchange Recharged

      496 Listeners

      Redefining Energy by Laurent Segalen and Gerard Reid

      Redefining Energy

      123 Listeners

      Inevitable by an MCJ podcast

      Inevitable

      166 Listeners

      Switched On by Bloomberg

      Switched On

      99 Listeners

      POLITICO Energy by POLITICO

      POLITICO Energy

      131 Listeners

      Climate Rising by Harvard Business School Business & Environment Initiative

      Climate Rising

      76 Listeners

      Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change by Michael Liebreich, Bryony Worthington

      Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

      70 Listeners

      Volts by David Roberts

      Volts

      575 Listeners

      The Green Blueprint by Latitude Media

      The Green Blueprint

      203 Listeners

      Zero: The Climate Race by Bloomberg

      Zero: The Climate Race

      186 Listeners

      The Latitude by Latitude Media

      The Latitude

      124 Listeners

      Hot Buttons by Latitude Media

      Hot Buttons

      72 Listeners

      With Great Power by GridX and Latitude Studios

      With Great Power

      81 Listeners

      Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins by Heatmap News

      Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins

      90 Listeners