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Is the job you have today the one God is calling you to? In Part 2 of this two-part series, Joe Stopulos and Sam Halligan of FORGE go beyond the question of why we work. They look at how a man’s daily work can become prayer, give him purpose, and become a mission field for evangelization. Joe notes up front that this is a philosophical conversation, not official Church teaching.

In this episode:

• The unexamined life: Joe opens with Socrates and asks whether you are using your God-given talents in the job you have now.
• John Adams and the generations: In a letter to Abigail, Adams wrote that he studied politics and war so his grandchildren could study painting and poetry. Joe asks what happens when a society, or an AI-driven economy, loses the habit of real work.
• The crisis of purposelessness: Sam explains how closely a man’s sense of purpose is tied to making a difference. When men feel replaceable, they lose their footing. Fatherhood, lived as a vocation, gives a man a reason to get up every morning.
• Can you retire at 40? Not working a traditional job isn’t wrong, but stewardship is. Spending every day at the country club is a wasted life, and your kids are watching. Sam also explains why a lottery jackpot often leaves people with no aim.
• Even spreadsheets can be worship: Following St. Paul (Romans 12:1), any task, even a dull one, can be offered to God as spiritual worship.
• Ora et labora: The Benedictine rhythm of prayer and work puts prayer first. Anchor your day in prayer, then let your work and your prayer feed each other.
• Praying always at work: Set reminders on your phone or watch through the day. Pray the Angelus at noon (under three minutes) and the Divine Mercy Chaplet at 3 p.m. (under ten minutes).
• St. Josemaría Escrivá and Opus Dei: Lay work is a real path to holiness. You may be the only Catholic some of your coworkers ever meet.
• Your workplace is your mission field: Men are stirred by movies like Braveheart, but modern work can feel like a grind until Friday. What would change if you saw your office as a mission? Be the light at work, give exceptional service, and leave people better off than you found them.
• Joe’s closing reflection: Pray first and then work. See your vocation as a path to holiness and your workplace as your mission field. Use a men’s group to sharpen the sword.

Missed Part 1? Go back to last week’s episode on the theology of work, Genesis, and whether you need to enjoy your job.

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What is the purpose of work? Am I in the right career? Am I called to this job? Most men wrestle with these questions throughout their careers. In Part 1 of this two-part series, Joe Stopulos sits down with Sam Halligan of FORGE, fresh off FORGE’s new course on men and work, for a candid conversation about why we work and how faith shapes the way we approach our jobs.

In this episode:

• Meet Sam Halligan: A Des Moines native (St. Pius X Parish in Urbandale, Dowling Catholic, Benedictine College) who spent a decade as a missionary with Damascus in Ohio and Minnesota before coming home to Iowa and joining FORGE.
• Work is not a result of the Fall: God commissioned Adam to till and keep the garden before original sin. Work carries real dignity by design; the “sweat of your brow” came later.
• Do you have to enjoy your job? Providing for your family is a higher good than loving what you do. Ideally the two go together, and St. Irenaeus’ “the glory of God is man fully alive” points toward using your God-given talents well.
• There is no perfect job: Even dream careers like pro golfer, rock star, or CEO come with grinding pressure. Comparison is a trap, much like Instagram.
• Virtue lives in the middle: Avoid both the overworker who neglects his family and the man who never gets in the arena. Avoid both the job-hopper and the man stuck on autopilot.
• Take an inventory: Pause, pray, and ask whether you are stewarding your talents or hiding them under a bushel basket.
• Finding purpose in modern work: Since the Industrial Revolution, workers have moved further from the people they serve. Joe and Sam discuss meaning in a 100,000-person company, the role of AI, and the parable of three men building the same wall, one of whom knows he’s building a house for God.
• St. Paul on idleness: 2 Thessalonians makes clear we are all called to work, including retirees.
• Why men’s groups matter: A small group of faithful Catholic men who know you well is a strong sounding board for career and vocation decisions.

Next week in Part 2: evangelization in the workplace and much more with Sam Halligan.

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Have you ever wanted to hear from someone who helped get a saint named Doctor of the Church? Dr. Bud Marr was there in Rome for both of Newman’s big moments, and in this episode he and Joe dig into why this 19th-century English convert matters so much for Catholic men today.

In this episode:

• Bud’s road to Newman. In 2006, while studying at Duke Divinity School and drifting toward Anglicanism, Bud found Newman through an essay by Rusty Reno, now editor of First Things. Two lines changed everything: “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant” and “Ten thousand difficulties do not make one doubt.”
• Who was John Henry Newman? He lived from 1801 to 1890, was a famous Anglican minister and Oxford fellow, and became Catholic at about age 45. It’s also why your college Catholic center is likely called the Newman Center.
• Red vs. white martyrdom. Newman’s conversion cost him his career, his friends, and his standing in English society. To be English was to be Anglican.
• The development of doctrine. In An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine, Newman explains how Church teaching grows organically without changing its substance, an idea that later informed the dogma of the Immaculate Conception and Vatican II.
• Newman’s mottos for life: Cor ad cor loquitur (“Heart speaks to heart”) and “Holiness before peace.”
• Where to start reading Newman: Don’t start with the Grammar of Assent. Begin with his sermons, especially the eight volumes of Parochial and Plain Sermons, all free online. Next, try A Letter to the Duke of Norfolk, Newman’s balanced take on conscience and papal authority after Vatican I.
• Behind the scenes of the Doctor of the Church cause. As director of the National Institute for Newman Studies in Pittsburgh (hired in 2017), Bud worked with the Brompton Oratory in London. The Institute digitized Newman’s huge body of writing (8 volumes of sermons, 32 volumes of letters, and more) and gathered 20 scholars to write the positio sent to the Vatican.
• Rome, twice. Bud was there for Newman’s canonization under Pope Francis in October 2019 and for his declaration as Doctor of the Church by Pope Leo on All Saints Day 2025. At the second ceremony, Newman was named co-patron of Catholic education with Saint Thomas Aquinas.
• Joe’s rosary challenge update. After the rosary episode with Keith Nester, Joe’s one-week daily rosary challenge has grown to nearly four weeks. If you haven’t started yet, start now.

Resources mentioned:

• Read Newman’s sermons free online at Newman Reader: https://www.newmanreader.org/
• National Institute for Newman Studies: https://www.newmanstudies.org/
• Seeking God with Saint John Henry Newman by Ryan J. Marr, published by Our Sunday Visitor. It’s written for a general audience.
• To Be Perfect Is to Have Changed Often by Ryan J. Marr, Bud’s dissertation on how Newman’s understanding of the Church developed.
• Bishop Robert Barron’s Pivotal Players series features Newman.

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Have you ever wanted a deeper devotion to the Rosary but struggled to make it part of your daily routine? Joe Stopulos welcomes back Keith Nester of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, former Protestant pastor, Catholic convert, and founder of the Rosary Crew, to talk about how to pray the Rosary every day and truly enter into its mysteries.

In this episode:

• Keith's conversion to the Catholic Church and why the Rosary was initially a hang-up for him
• How Fr. Donald Calloway's book Champions of the Rosary inspired Keith to see the Rosary as a spiritual weapon
• The story of how one March 2020 livestream turned into six and a half years of praying the Rosary daily with thousands online
• Why the Rosary is "a prayer, not a formula," and why it still counts even when you get distracted
• Joe's "lazy river" analogy: letting the prayer of the Church carry you
• A moving encounter at a truck stop on I-80 in Gretna, Nebraska, with a Rosary Crew member facing terminal cancer
• Testimonies of people breaking free from habitual sin and finding their way into the Church through the Rosary
• Keith's practical steps for starting a daily Rosary habit: learn the mechanics, pick a time (earlier in the day is better), find a quiet place, meditate on the mysteries, and don't get discouraged

Resources Mentioned

• Unpacking the Mysteries of the Rosary by Keith Nester, a Scripture-based guide to each mystery of the Rosary, available on Amazon and at Keith's website:down2earthministry.org
• Champions of the Rosary by Fr. Donald Calloway, MIC

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What if a school existed for one reason: to make saints?

On this episode of Man Up, Joe Stopulos sits down in studio with Bryan Gonzalez — founding family, board member, and tutor at St. Thomas Classical Academy — for an honest conversation about Catholic classical education, homeschooling, and what it takes for fathers to raise children for heaven.

In this episode:

• What St. Thomas Classical Academy actually is. A hybrid model: families homeschool Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, then gather together Tuesday and Thursday. Parents stay the primary educators, but the curriculum is already selected — removing what Bryan calls the thorn in the side of homeschooling.
• The mission statement, and the two pillars that set STCA apart: a deep commitment to the Catholic tradition, and education done the classical way — encountering truth, goodness, and beauty.
• Six students to 120. The academy launched in 2017 and now serves roughly 50 families, plus another 30–40 children through Catechesis of the Good Shepherd. It rents space at Sts. John and Paul Parish in Altoona.
• Zero dollars. Bryan explains why STCA receives no funding from the state or the diocese, why the community declined ESA dollars, and what that independence protects.
• Why the priests keep showing up. Rotating priests drive from across the diocese to offer Mass — some on their day off — because 120 kids serving, reading, and singing at Mass fills them up.
• Ephesians 6:4 for fathers: bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord — and what that looks like practically for Catholic dads and male mentors.
• Bishop James Conley's story. He entered the University of Kansas as a self-described hippie agnostic, encountered John Senior's Integrated Humanities Program in the 1970s, and became Catholic his senior year. Joe explains why Conley was the one speaker he wanted for this event.

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This episode is part two of a special crossover conversation between Joe Stopulos and Bud Marr, recorded for Bud's show The Uncommon Good in the weeks after the passing of Joe's father, Mike Stopulos. If you missed part one, it's worth going back to catch the full arc of this reflection on grief, service, and eternity.

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Whether you're walking through grief, wrestling with the tension between work and family, or looking for saints to emulate as a father, this conversation offers grounded wisdom for living with eternity in view.

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In this special crossover episode, Man Up host Joe Stopulos trades the mic for the guest chair, joining Dr. Bud Marr of The Uncommon Good for a deeply personal conversation about what it means to live — and die — well as a Catholic man. Recorded this past June, just weeks after the sudden passing of Joe's father, Mike Stopulos, the discussion centers on the "obituary virtues" that matter most: faith, service, and family.

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In this solo teaching episode, Joe Stopulos tackles a topic many Catholic men avoid discussing openly: money. Drawing on two books by finance writer Morgan Housel — The Psychology of Money (2020) and The Art of Spending Money (2025) — Joe walks through the core lessons of both and reframes them through a Catholic lens of stewardship, humility, and contentment.

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This episode is a call for Catholic men to examine their relationship with money — not as an end in itself, but as a tool for building a life centered on faith, family, and generosity.

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Tim Carney is back for round two, and this conversation goes even deeper into his book Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder Than It Needs to Be. Tim is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where he researches civil society, family, localism, religion in America, and economic policy. He's also a husband and father of six seven — and a recent speaker at the Forge Conference.

Picking up where they left off last week, Joe and Tim work through the back half of the book chapter by chapter:

Walkability & the "Cheaper by the Dozen" Reality

It Takes a Village (Even If Hillary Said It First)

Policy, Israel, and What Actually Moves the Needle

Screens, Social Media, and Protecting Your Kids

The Case for Stay-at-Home Moms

Ending on Hope

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Joe Stopulos welcomes back author, journalist, and father of six Tim Carney for a two-part conversation on his latest book, Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder Than It Needs to Be. Tim is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where he researches civil society, family, localism, and religion in America, and a senior columnist at the Washington Examiner. He previously joined Joe to discuss his earlier book, Alienated America, and returns after a well-received talk at this year's Forge Conference.

In Part 1, Joe and Tim cover:

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