Podcaster Marc Sims returns and the conversation turns to Willie Wilson and Richard Irvin. Will Chicago voters elect Willie Wilson as their mayor because he give out free gas? As for Richard Irvin, he's the more or less centrist-like mayor of Aurora who's recast himself as a MAGA Republican to beat JB Pritker. In his latest commercial, Irvin says, "there's nothing the left fears more than Republicans who look me and think like us." What is he telling us? Marc & Ben riff.

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